Numetal/Retromux

Ominous

Will we ever get a WOD game that isn’t run by weirdos?

That’s like asking if we can get a WOD game that isn’t run by humans. This is a weird hobby. All of us are weirdos. You’re only ever going to get weirdos running a MU*.

Pavel

@Ominous said in Numetal/Retromux:

That’s like asking if we can get a WOD game that isn’t run by humans

WoDGPT?

Though I suppose to be WoD staff it’d need to be a small language model…

MisterBoring

@Pavel said in Numetal/Retromux:

Though I suppose to be WoD staff it’d need to be a small language model…

Strangely I would not be surprised if there’s already an LLM trained on the entire line of OWoD and NWoD / CoD books.

Pavel

@MisterBoring ChatGPT definitely has the books in its head. It’s just (ironically, for a calculator with aspirations) shit at actually making a mechanically sound character. At least last time I checked.

MisterBoring

@Pavel

That’s funny. I’d probably never ask an LLM to build a character. The only thing I could see doing with an LLM trained on a series of TTRPG books is ask it for specific page references. A sort of index.

Cygnus

@MisterBoring Most are or can search it up no problem. Better yet, they don’t pressure you for RL pics or out trans people they don’t like. Probably more fun to RP with a bot than be on most of the WOD games these days

Captain Howdy

Not sure who you played, but this doesn’t match my experience at all. RetroMux is probably the most stable game I’ve found in years now that Pika is gone. Sorry you had a bad experience.

Jenn

@Captain-Howdy

Yeah… Usually I avoid the who might be who and who’s a sock puppet guessing game. But. A new name with only one singular post on the forums popping out from the woodwork to proclaim Pika is gone, and Pika’s history… I’m not actually convinced at all that Pika is gone. WAY less inclined to believe that NOW.

MayorMccheez

@Cygnus Long time listener, first time caller.

So, there is a lot to break down here, so we are just going to stick with the facts, and I am going to keep this civil and isn’t something I’d normally bring to light, but I feel it is something that needs to be addressed since now months later you seem to be on another tirade.

The topic of Eddie being a sex pest. It has never been reported to us, or if it has there was certainly no proof put in because we have a pretty strong track record of banning these types of individuals. Is Eddie a dick cheese ICly? He can be. Is he a cranky old vet OOCly? Yes, he can be, but he also has enough sense to backtrack when he has gone a little overboard and learns from his mistakes ICly and OOCly. Something we cannot say for you, Vincent <Don’t worry I’m getting to this later>.

The second accusation is that Chaos and the rest of staff are sex pests and that we are all having some sort of orgy together with our favorite players? I can’t speak for the rest of staff, but I know without a doubt that none of the vampire staff are TSing folks and certainly not for favors. Chaos and myself only run NPCs for plot and what PC’s I do have I haven’t significantly played since the first of the year because what time I do have is devoted to running plot for others. The pieces of those plots are not handed out based on who you are ICly or OOCly but handed to those who are motivated self-starters and proactively seek answers and investigate.

Thirdly, staff running prince’s is pretty standard these days. Players come and go, and a stable leader is needed.

Then I read somewhere else that he is outing people as trans. As per the case with the sex pest stuff. Where are the receipts? We’ve never had a case on there, to my knowledge, where a trans person was attacked for what they are and I’m 100% sure that if such a thing happened that person would be gone.

Now for the finale! Based on the things you have said and your recent discord campaign against Chaos it really can only leave your identity to one person, and it took a bit of thinking to put all the pieces together, but I am 99% sure that you are Vincent from Retro AKA Joe Sakai from Lib.

If you’ve made it this far stick around cause there is no TLDR version. I’ll explain to the readers exactly what Vincent was. Vincent was a Gangrel/kinfolk super special snowflake vampire, complete with shifter rites, that he got approved by utilizing a friend who was on staff that he regularly plays Dungeons and Dickheads with via discord. Unfortunately, Vincent has what we call Main Character Syndrome which means that he always must be the center of attention, have the coolest and flashiest of moves, and be the daring hero. Not really a bad thing but it is when it doesn’t work out how he expected it turned into everyone else is just assholes.

So, he comes in, brand new, introduces himself to the shifters and it doesn’t go quite as planned. The shifters reasonably reacted as if he was some sort of abomination. He was going to need to prove himself. It went about the same way with the vampires especially after he told the vampires that if he had to choose between the two, he’d have the shifters back <even if this is true why would you admit it in court in front of everyone?>.

At this point are he had the choice of buckling down and proving himself to either faction but instead he chose to ensue chaos by quite literally coming into every shifter meeting or court event and quite literally taking a nice big steamy shit right in the middle of it and showing his ass. You pissed off 2 spheres and would complain to staff to play the victim card.

At this point multiple staffers were wanting the character to be pulled but Chaos and I stood up for you to let it continue to play out ICly and see if you could pull yourself out of the gigantic hole you had dug yourself into at this point. Instead, you set a now standing record for going negative in the status system and had to be removed from the city.

So, your answer to this was to call upon the former staff, your buddy, to introduce a plot where your super special character finds some magical potion that turns a vampire back into a mortal. Something that does not exist in the books you expect everyone else to know cover to cover. Of course, we shot this down because it would set a precedence that we did not want to have to honor down the road in the interest of fairness to all players.

Even after that whole fiasco was over we were still going to allow you roll another special character but because we would not give you special favors, IE Extra XP to acquire more ridiculous powers, above what the templates called for and that we had given every other player you got mad and left and we never heard from you again…or so we thought.

In closing, this is a time for a little self-reflection and accountability. You, and you alone, are the one who sabotaged your character. If one or two people had been like ‘oh we dislike that guy’ that’s par for the course. Everyone rubs a couple of people wrong. You successfully made the majority of 2 spheres /loathe/ you.

So, there is two routes you can take here the first route is hammer the keyboard with a scolding rebuttal, which I’m fine with there is nothing within my character that you can attack, or you can take a look in the mirror and think ‘Man, maybe some of that was self-induced and maybe I should change my approach because maybe, just maybe, I don’t always have the best ideas or stick my foot in my mouth.’

Sorry for the long read, but there is so much more to this story that isn’t even being offloaded.

Sephiroth AKA Giancarlo

Muse

Hi @Jenn ,

I’m happy to affirm that Pika is no longer associated with RetroMux. She stepped down from staff shortly after I started back in November/December. Then in April there was a site outage, from what we could discover it was likely due to non-payment.

It seemed like the right time to officially part ways. We got a new host, new wiki, and removed all traces of her affiliation. It was also a good time to refocus on our intent to have a community first game, which so far has seemed pretty successful despite the rocky origin of the game.

I recognize this is my first post (yay!) but my account isn’t brand new, in fact I made it shortly after we got situated from pulling the new site together. My lack of prior posts really just sums up to the reputation this place and it’s ancestors have, which is a bit…intimidating, especially to someone relatively new to Mushing (less than three years). But I’ve been liking posts here and there, and debating chiming in. You finally got me to do it!

Hope this helps offer some reassurances on the Pika front. OH! And so no one has to fret over the ‘who is who’ game, I’m Ori, an HST and the Shifter Lead on RetroMux.