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    • PavelP
      Pavel
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      Huh, I had assumed you were speaking with hyperbole to reference the usual accumulation of house rules that eventually make games nigh-incomprehensible to people who aren’t eyeball deep in it – such a thing is to be expected after years of operation.

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      • GashlycrumbG
        Gashlycrumb @Popes
        last edited by Gashlycrumb

        @Popes said in Liberation Drama!?:

        @Jynxbox I mean, just because all that’s true, doesn’t mean she’s not doing it wrong. She removed Glabro as a form from Garou for christsakes. That’s asinine and probably REALLY fucking petty.

        @Jynxbox I mean, just because that’s all true, doesn’t mean she’s not doing it wrong. She’s put characters where the players wouldn’t have them go. She’s ordered players to have their characters do certain things. She’s ignored players who say “My PC wouldn’t do that,” to those orders, and then weeks or months later insisted that the player agreed and yelled at them for not RPing that their PC did that. She’s fudged rules “just this time” to protect her chosen IC leaders from their mistakes. She’s responded to, ‘I have a plan to gain some real power in my faction, something that Leader can’t just take away,’ with, ‘No. You must be genuinely loyal to Leader or change factions.’ I think probably most players consider that stuff to be crossing a line, and it’s not what she wrote on the box.

        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
        – A. Bertram Chandler

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          Alamias @Pavel
          last edited by

          @Pavel Ah, no. I’m being serious when I say Liberation rewrote the game. It goes far beyond just some house rules. Like for instance, and this is just a couple examples for Werewolf:

          Only Homids can only shift to Lupus and Crinos. Only Lupus can shift to Homid, Chrinos, and Hispo. There is no Glabro form.
          All gifts have been rewritten into a new somewhat tabular ‘path’ system (based off W:TF tiers)
          The way rage works was rebuilt.

          It’s a totally different game than W:TA aside from theme.

          Etc. There were changes to Vamp too in regards to Disciplines, adding new tiers…etc.

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          • GashlycrumbG
            Gashlycrumb @Alamias
            last edited by Gashlycrumb

            @Alamias Yep. In small part it’s sorta sensible – more stuff to spend XP on, slows down those maxed out sheets.

            Considering how frustrated players were that they couldn’t get +jobs handled or, y’know, do much, because their GM was too busy rewriting the game system, and how offputting it is to new players to join a game wanting to play WoD20 and find a rewrite, it probably wasn’t anything close to worth it. Unless you count it being fun for Sun to write as the most/only important bit.

            "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
            – A. Bertram Chandler

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            • PavelP
              Pavel
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              And I thought their ‘unique’ Directors, Producers, Whatevers system was weird.

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                Muscle Car @Pavel
                last edited by Muscle Car

                @Pavel As a former Producer, it’s interning sans benefits.

                Got what you wanted, lost what you had.

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                • MisterBoringM
                  MisterBoring @Muscle Car
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                  @Muscle-Car said in Liberation Drama!?:

                  As a former Producer, it’s interning sans benefits.

                  There are benefits to being ‘Staff’ at Lib?

                  Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

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                  • PavelP
                    Pavel @MisterBoring
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                    @MisterBoring You get to entirely rewrite a mechanic to the benefit of one of your PCs.

                    This is a joke.

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                    • MisterBoringM
                      MisterBoring @Pavel
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                      @Pavel said in Liberation Drama!?:

                      This is a joke.

                      a close up of a man in a green elf costume with the words `` you sit on a throne of lies '' .

                      Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

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                      • PavelP
                        Pavel @MisterBoring
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