RL Peeves
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There’s no escalation at this point and not really one to go to. It’s just very frustrating as he’s had to be coached about making comments about people. I just keep thinking what if this was the minor child I have in my employ.
Then I was like, am I being weird? I logically know I’m not but well thanks. It helps to hear that my reaction is probably the more sane one.
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There’s no escalation at this point and not really one to go to. It’s just very frustrating as he’s had to be coached about making comments about people. I just keep thinking what if this was the minor child I have in my employ.
Then I was like, am I being weird? I logically know I’m not but well thanks. It helps to hear that my reaction is probably the more sane one.
It’s also shitty where HR, at least in big companies like the one I work in, won’t escalate unless a lawsuit is possible or likely. Then they will put on a song and dance to try to show they are doing something, which is never a permanent fix. Unfortunately, filing a lawsuit is basically the nuclear option and almost ends up burning bridges.
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HR circles back to let me know the photo has been deleted. However, the male co-worker said he’s reaching out to his therapist about it and my female HR thinks that’s really good enough. As the photo was deleted and there was no harm.
Why are they centring his feelings. Wtf is this pickme ass logic. I assume he’s a grown adult?? Oh wow so sad he’s still working through his issues to not take an inappropriate picture of a colleague without consent. Poor him, hope he can make it through this tough time???
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HR circles back to let me know the photo has been deleted. However, the male co-worker said he’s reaching out to his therapist about it and my female HR thinks that’s really good enough. As the photo was deleted and there was no harm.
Why are they centring his feelings. Wtf is this pickme ass logic. I assume he’s a grown adult?? Oh wow so sad he’s still working through his issues to not take an inappropriate picture of a colleague without consent. Poor him, hope he can make it through this tough time???
Because that’s the path of least amount of work for HR and probably exposes to the company the least amount of risk to a successful lawsuit. Terminating an employee is a lot of work and exposes the company to a wrongful termination lawsuit. Putting an official warning or mark on that employee’s record also exposes them to a potential lawsuit if @rightmeow wishes to sue them, because now there is evidence of wrongdoing.
Now I know we have a number of lawyers in this community so they can correct me if I’m wrong or provide more clarification, but this is what I’ve heard from others working in corporate and what I’ve seen in my corporate career. Many of us agree and have an understanding that HR is not there to help you. They are there to help and protect the company as their employee.
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HR circles back to let me know the photo has been deleted. However, the male co-worker said he’s reaching out to his therapist about it and my female HR thinks that’s really good enough. As the photo was deleted and there was no harm.
Why are they centring his feelings. Wtf is this pickme ass logic. I assume he’s a grown adult?? Oh wow so sad he’s still working through his issues to not take an inappropriate picture of a colleague without consent. Poor him, hope he can make it through this tough time???
Because that’s the path of least amount of work for HR and probably exposes to the company the least amount of risk to a successful lawsuit.
Absolutely not. They should be firing him. They are exposing the company to wild amounts of risk if he does anything in the future.
im in hr
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Because that’s the path of least amount of work for HR and probably exposes to the company the least amount of risk to a successful lawsuit.
Absolutely not. They should be firing him. They are exposing the company to wild amounts of risk if he does anything in the future.
im in hr
Yeah, not a lawyer here, but if this guy keeps it up and RightMeow is documenting everything meticulously – particularly HR’s refusal to actually, y’know, do fuck all about him – I believe the magic words are “hostile work environment”, at least in the US. That’s when you call an attorney.
P.S. – The consult call about whether you have a case or not is free.
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@junipersky That middle link is the article I linked to.
The main thing I support is the penalties against district boards for bad student performance. If things are going that poorly those at the top should get canned.
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Also because you are probably at least somewhat aware that therapy generally does not teach abusers not to be abusive. It teaches them to use concepts and terminology from therapy to be better at abuse and victim-blaming. The therapist’s job is to improve their client’s, in this case the abuser’s, well-being. The therapist isn’t working for you or everybody else around this guy. So “I will reach out to my therapist about this” is pretty much the opposite of addressing the problem. Really it goes, “I will talk to my therapist, who will almost certainly give me reasons I am not really in the wrong here and help me more effectively reverse our roles so you’re wrong and what I did is no big deal.”
Yeah, that’s fuckin horrible, incompetent, and unethical therapy. Sadly common, but that’s not how it’s meant to be.
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@RightMeow Get a copy of the video feed for yourself if you haven’t yet.
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Absolutely get a copy of the video, but remember that HR is there to protect the company, not you.
We recently had three female employees come forward about sexual harassment from a male coworker. They contacted HR and the union. HR told them they’d investigate. The union told them they’d investigate, but he was also a union employee, so they’d need to protect him too. He was told to stay away from them while it happened.
So of course the first thing he did was corner one of them by the copier and say “So I guess I’m sexually harassing you huh?”
In the end they didn’t interview any of the witnesses and decided it was just a real he-said, she-said and he had a VP backing him so it was fine. No sexual harassment actually happened.
He still works there. Other male employees have stepped up to ensure that when those women (and others) are in the office they act as a buffer, but every single one of them is looking for a new job right now and HR made it clear they don’t want these women causing any more problems.
Get the video and get a lawyer.
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I have the world’s worst, pickiest (NEEDLESSLY/USELESSLY PICKIEST) art director above me AAAAAAA
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