Liberation Drama!?
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Ah, yes, another active player who was running things for others removed.
AddisonPlayer could be annoying. We butted heads on a few things, a few times. But he did a lot for the game, and a lot for other people.
The writing for this one was on the wall. I hope Siren and co enjoy the empty shell of the game they stole from Sundance and are busily driving into the ground.
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AddisonPlayer could be annoying. We butted heads on a few things, a few times. But he did a lot for the game, and a lot for other people.
Would you say your experience with AddisonPlayer is uniform to everyone that interacted with AddisonPlayer?
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I wouldn’t say that, at the point when Siren & co. took over for Sundance*, they would be able to “drive the game into the ground.” If Liberation were an airplane, then it’s been taxiing to the terminal for at least two years now, if not more.
* who is on a hiatus that she, herself, has mentioned more than a couple times -
Crazy the amount of validation I feel reading recent sentiments and secondhand stories about that place. Wish I could bottle and sell it. Also wild to see folks feeling like someone has found out how to do a worse job than the previous wiz.
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Ah, yes, another active player who was running things for others removed.
AddisonPlayer could be annoying. We butted heads on a few things, a few times. But he did a lot for the game, and a lot for other people.
I mean, idk the specifics of this game and this player, but. That is the story for plenty of banned folks who definitely deserved banning. I really don’t think “they do a lot for the game” should be a variable in this sort of equation at all; it implies that a certain level of wrong-doing can just be made up for if you’re active and productive enough. That’s how you end up with the classic “coder we ‘can’t’ get rid of.”
And “players show different faces to different people” ought to go without saying.
The game may still be a trashfire being run into the ground or whatnot! I don’t know. But whenever people react to a ban with “but they do a lot for the game” or “they weren’t that bad to me” it makes me sigh a bit.
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Yeah, I didn’t say it was a good standard.
My mental translation of the bbpost is: Addison bitched about the game, criticised the current gamerunners. (I know this to be true.) He bitched to somebody who, instead of telling him that they didn’t want to hear it, squealed to staff (presumably in the hopes of getting the brownie points). Offended, they banned him and made this post implying that it was to protect players.
Also wild to see folks feeling like someone has found out how to do a worse job than the previous wiz.
It really is impressive.
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@MisterBoring I would say on my personal experience that mine vastly differs from @evilgrayson. On more than one character I have had him tell me how to play, go on rants on channel about how something was wrong only to be corrected with facts including references that backed them up, only for him to continue the argument and change the avenue of attack to something that is utterly his personal point of view. Is this high on the list of grievous sins one can commit on its own? No. But being that he’s been doing it since the game was in Beta, I can see a tally getting rather large to a point where staff just feels this isn’t the game for someone.
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@Wyrmsign But I can think of seven, no, eight others who do/have done the very same and have remained treasured and protected. Right down to players getting yelled at for typing things like, “p staffer=Hey, Special Guy is yelling obscenities at me and won’t stop, please help.”
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@Gashlycrumb I have no control over who they choose to ban or not. I had bad experiences with the named player, I shared them.
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Addison writes beautifully, is deeply intelligent and was a huge part of Liberation for a long time. He knows a massive amount about game theme and has very strong opinions on how things should go. He is a passionate and talented role player.
He also pages people too often ooc, complains too much ooc, can be bossy and controlling ooc towards other players.
Staff probably didn’t enjoy banning him and I don’t envy their position.
While Addison had a lot to offer, he didn’t always know when to back down and chill.
I’m not familiar with the details and events leading up his banning, so my insight is limited. That being said as much as I admire Addison’s writing and passion for the game, I can absolutely believe he crossed a line and deserved the ban.
I feel bad for staff being in this position and despite very much believing he truly earned the ban, I feel a little bad for Addison. The game meant a lot to him. He isn’t a bad person imo. That being said sometimes for good of the community hard choices need to be made and sometimes someone is a bad fit for a community or needs a break from mushing,
I hope he is doing well and finds other outlets for his creative talents.
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