Liberation Drama!?
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@MidnightCreature said:
Kraken mentioned on channel that he intended to use ChatGPT to rewrite or rework the website/wiki.
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Because it’s the only way to fix this?
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@Gashlycrumb More game documentation needs to be written in APA format. Even better if they include citations.
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so you get banned from a game and then start writing up paragraphs on paragraphs about how they’re totally plagiarizing you and stealing your work and chatgpting everything.
I haven’t played there in ages but I got curious after reading, so I hopped on to look and-
The full post is about 5x longer that the section you cut it into, doesn’t ping as LLM written on any of the detectors, and, a bit more significantly considering the timing of your post, the bbpost and all of this happened 4 months ago.
This reads more like sour grapes than anything else.
It’s ok to be upset about a game, but it’s important to remember that this is a pretend world of darkness game where we play creatures of the night. Take a breath, go outside, do something else with your time. Don’t spiral, just move on. Or, you seem to have strong opinions and a grasp of the lore, start your own game.
There’s only like 2 active ones right now- see if you can garner an audience.
Just advice- I’m not going to keep engaging because I haven’t MUSHed in a long time, and only hop on now and then to chat with a couple friends who don’t use Discord. Take the advice or don’t.
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@nobody said:
The full post is about 5x longer that the section you cut it into, doesn’t ping as LLM written on any of the detectors, and, a bit more significantly considering the timing of your post, the bbpost and all of this happened 4 months ago.This reads more like sour grapes than anything else.
Yeah this is kinda why I wanted more information, it feels like the kind of claim that’s sometimes designed just to get sympathy in these parts. Who the hell knows, though? I literally don’t even go here.
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so you get banned from a game and then start writing up paragraphs on paragraphs about how they’re totally plagiarizing you and stealing your work and chatgpting everything.
I haven’t played there in ages but I got curious after reading, so I hopped on to look and-
Well, you certainly have an awful lot to say for someone who supposedly doesn’t care and seems to feel very strongly that I shouldn’t care either, but I’ll humor you…
“I ran it through an AI detector and it didn’t ping!” doesn’t address I what actually presented and I’m not especially when you didn’t even care to mention what detector you used or how you reached that conclusion. I never claimed a detector proved anything.
My claim was based on the relationship between the original document, the surrounding circumstances, several very obvious LLM-style rewriting tells, and staff’s open admission to using LLMs in later conversations.
The fact that this happened four months ago is equally irrelevant. I’m discussing it now because it fits into a larger, continuing problem: the people running the game still seem perfectly comfortable helping themselves to my work and attempting to access my Google Docs after removing me, and after a year of minimizing my contributions to the game.
Would this complaint somehow be more legitimate if I had immediately rushed here four months ago and blown everything up publicly? Or is it possible I tried other avenues first?
Ultimately, your response boils down to “my AI detector didn’t flag it” and “I personally don’t care about this, so you shouldn’t either.”
People put enormous amounts of unpaid creative labor into these communities and generally do care about what happens to that work. If you admittedly don’t participate much, don’t contribute, and generally exist outside the MUSH ecosystem, maybe you should be the one to go outside and touch grass.
Telling someone how much they’re allowed to care about something admittedly “barely participate in” is just condescending.
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@midnightcreature Two of the links in the post with the image look broken. Have to click through to see them.
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@Taika That’s intentional. They’re under a spoiler tag.
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@MidnightCreature Oh! My bad, then!
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@nobody said:
I’m not going to keep engaging because I haven’t MUSHed in a long time, and only hop on now and then to chat with a couple friends who don’t use Discord.This is always an odd thing to say while choosing to engage, on a seemingly anonymous account that only posts about one particular game.
No dog in this race, don’t eat seafood, but I know fish when I smell it.
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