Bannings
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Itās kinda ironic to think that there were a lot of accusations thrown around of cliqueish behavior when so few of those bans were actually overturned. Especially the more egregious ones ā you would expect there to at least be an explanation as to why people are staying banned if they wanna go with more transparency.
But the āinternal reviewā was also done by two people who went open season on people protesting as is, so I mean, I donāt know what I expected.
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āSo many people messaged me in support and will remain anonymous as they continue to fear for their saftey!ā isā¦ an argument, I guess. Weird how it keeps getting made inconsistently.
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@Dreampipe said in Bannings:
But the āinternal reviewā was also done by two people who went open season on people protesting as is, so I mean, I donāt know what I expected.
We have investigated our decisions and found that we were right. We have also investigated ourselves for bad behaviour and found that we were good.
Funny how that works.
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that makes me so sad.
The whole thing makes me sad, too. I 100% get it. And I was only really involved from the outside, as observer and lurker. I understand why it would LEGIT be hard for people who were more a part of the community. Iām sorry.
It is sad. Because it didnāt have to be this way. Conversations couldāve been had. Conversations in good faith. And I believe they werenāt simply because or pride and/or ego. And thatās my belief, that people, even when having conflicting views, donāt want to try and figure out. How to resolve it. Itās just āhereās my space, thereās your spaceā. To me, it smacks of tribalism. But thatās human behavior, moving along in groups where you agree and are like-minded.
The instigation of so many rules isnāt going to make a place āsaferā. Give the illusion of safety perhaps. But itās safety thatās crafted out of fear. Because now the precedent has been set and people will be far more trepidatious to speaking out simply because it sounds like an opposing viewpoint isnāt welcome or observed. If you want to make a place feel safer and welcoming, there has to be a certain level of buy-in. And if there isnāt, youāre going to continually have situations like weāve all just witnessed.
But again, I think it comes down to pride or ego, or both. And the unwillingness to try and resolve conflicts.
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Itās ludicrous and my inability to keep my mouth shut gave that shitstain of a human Macha more platform to lie about Farfalla and I feel really bad about that.
Iām sorry.
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@Testament said in Bannings:
Conversations couldāve been had.
They were had. And we were each, individually, lied to. At least I certainly was.
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@Pavel Iām sure there was. It wasnāt something I had, but I also didnāt try, as I have enough mental and emotional bullshit to deal with. But thatās also why I said conversations in good faith.
Which clearly, there was not.
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Listen. They built themselves a community there that really fits the level of self-awareness and spite this whole thing demonstrated.
I, for one, wish them all the best building a more positive and constructive community with the likes of vulgarkitten, ghost, derp and macha.
Bless that mess.
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@Testament I think itās also worth recognising the power relationships in play - in that one side in this had, and claimed, absolute power and authority. We are nerds, we should all be familiar with the idea that with great power comes great responsibility.
But, it is all over now. Theyāve got the person convinced there is a giant conspiracy of Farfalla supporters stalking unspecified people making threats, and Ghost telling everyone how great it is to be nice while throwing insults around at people not on the board. So. They can enjoy that. We can enjoy constructive stuff. Iāve got more out of a few days of BMD so far than my time on MSB!
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Preemptive congratulations to @BloodAngel on the MSB ban.
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Preemptive congratulations to @BloodAngel on the MSB ban.
Can we ban them here? Donāt want MSB getting all the fun.
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Preemptive congratulations to @BloodAngel on the MSB ban.
Thank you. As a black man in KKK land, I HATE FASCIST FUCKS.
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@Pavel But I love you guys, I need to be here to fuck with yaāll.
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@Tez I wonder if weāre gonna get a Review of Review of Bannings for whatever extra bans these conversations will trigger.
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Preemptive congratulations to @BloodAngel on the MSB ban.
Can we ban them here? Donāt want MSB getting all the fun.
The community has had a lifetimeās worth of bans that are a total joke in just the span of like a month. NO MORE JOKING ABOUT BANS.
