Numetal/Retromux
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@LeeRoyBatty said in Numetal/Retromux:
You’re Scarpia, here’s how i know,
Yes. I am. It is pretty telling that you assume that this is a secret I suck at keeping, It is something I’m just too lazy to make more obvious. Veiled threats to dox people are a great quality in any MUer, especially, staff.
First screenshot — Wow! I actually remember this conversation. This is fucking amazing because of the volume of whisky it took to get through listening to you tell me that if I just wasn’t so boring and ran plots, players who didn’t exist would come out. I had to pour to refrain from reminding you that you couldn’t attract or retain players, required approval for PRPs but refused to take the time to discuss my plot pitches, and that it was you, not I, who had signed up for the role of Cam RP staff.
You claimed everybody was afraid to RP with me because I might say mean things about them on MSB. But that was not everybody, that was you. And you were the only person rain-checking me. Unbelievably enough, it typically took four or six reschedules, each time involving me waiting an hour to see if you’d show. You refused to do stuff async in the +job. Nice to see you were admitting that it was purposeful. You castigated me about my lack of respect for your time and said it was ableist of me to expect you to keep appointments because ADHD.
Second screenshot — the active cam players not minding your banning me didn’t mean much when that consisted of me and a couple who never came out of their room. If there were others, they didn’t play when I was on.
Third screenshot — This just shows that you lied to me about your feelings about that incident and had dismissed some highly relevant shit that I told you about it. And it gives the strong impression that you’d been bitching about me on your staff channel before it happened. That’s interesting because, well, we clashed at opening, and then things went along fine and fun until then. So was I supposed to have known I was unwelcome and left in spite of you saying we were fine AND approving me, neither of which you had to do?
You should explain what “The Registry” was for the people in the back.
Screenshots of you complaining about me don’t prove I was behaving badly or that I was disliked. Funny, one of the last of your lectures/rants/advice sessions was about how I should be happy because I topped the +votes and +recs every month and was obviously well-liked. +votes were just XP farming, but there’s no explanation for the +recs that doesn’t involve players wanting to compliment me. Why the hell would you tell me that when you wanted me to leave?
You are right that it wasn’t a ‘single harmless incident.’ There was a long-standing pattern of you acting like an absolute twatwurst and then getting real mad that I didn’t like it and denying that it was hostile.
Sure, I was a buzz-kill. It was ugly to watch. But I didn’t have to do anything to be a buzz-kill, besides log on and want to play. This is why you accused me of “complaining on the looking for RP channel” when what I did was join it and not say anything.
People left over your confrontational and inconsistent GMing. This messed me up – you really liked one of them and were sad they left. They found you hostile and had a panic attack when they learned they’d been RPing with your PC. This kept me questioning the intent of your hostile behaviour toward me. Which you consistently denied was intentional.
I should have left, but we’d been good friends. I liked you and gave you too many chances, and you did shit like act all delighted to see me when I did leave and logged back on again a week later to @mail someone. Still my mistake.
I shouldn’t have been there at all, since when we met you were staff on Sheltering Sky, playing an illegal alt that the other staff there saw as a problem player, and complaining about staff and other players. I knew you were untrustworthy and trusted you anyway, absolute muppet that I am. My bad.
But those bads were me being naive and loyal, not malicious. The night before you de-approved me was the actual moment when I finally and completely gave up on you.
So you’re admitting people were avoiding you and spin it as their fault for not giving you a formal ‘do not talk to me’ WHILE dismissing the whole thing sarcastically as a “hideous crime”? Bruh. That’s WILD. Shit like this is why I banned you, man, boundary disrespecting shit like this right here.
No, on all counts. That was not me. Nor was Ryen the name. The person said they did not know the other players were avoiding them and had played with them recently.
Also. “shifting responsibility onto others for not spelling it out” line is bullshit. If you want another player to leave you alone, it is your responsibility to tell them, or at the very least, stop chatting with them. “Do as I say, not as I do,” is unfair, but “Do as I wish, not as I say,” is untenable. MUs are a text-only neurodiverse space.
Y’know, I did notice that MN was dead less than three months later. What happened? Was it just no fun without somebody to fume about and blame? Did you pick the wrong replacement scapegoat and destroy a friendship you cared about?
"This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
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You’re not actually engaging with the point. You’re instead throwing out all wild manner of insulting bullshit to shift the conversation onto me instead of your behavior you don’t want to stay in focus.
Players asked me to keep you away from them. Period. That’s not me being the only critic, that’s me as staff doing my job as staff. People who want no contact aren’t going to contact you. It’s literally the opposite of what they want. Advocating for players is the core function of staff, and so it was me who talked to you directly, not the people who wanted no contact.
MN declined because of choices I made and I have reflected on them. Once lockdown ended, I frankly didn’t want to keep dealing with situations exactly like this one. I regret letting the game decline, and I know what I’d do differently, but honestly? I’d rather be bad at running a MUSH than unable to understand or respect boundaries or take responsibility for my own faults.
Now as for that first screen shot, doxing is the exposure of PII, which a discord conversation about your role play character isn’t. But for your comfort, I’ll remove that one, since its utility was to just confirm that you RPed the character and you’ve confirmed it.
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@Gashlycrumb Been waiting for this reply. Didn’t realize I’d learn a new, amazing word in the process.
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@Muscle-Car Tell me, though, honestly. Are we pronouncing both Ws as Vs (as is the German way) or just the one? So is it tvatvurst or twatvurst?
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Is…any of this stuff that happened on Retro?
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@Wyrmsign HAHA omg no, Scarpia was years ago. I just don’t sit quietly when people minimize what got them banned. I’ve made my point though and I’m sure when or if I open a new game we can have a thread about it.
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So… who was whom on Sheltering Skies? Because I still have popcorn, damnit.
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I played Niyah and then later Khoi, and my staff account was Killdeer. Scarpia was Scarpia. He played the same character on SS and I invited him to play on MN because he felt like staff was targeting him on SS and he was having trouble with finding satisfying RP with other players.
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Yeah, uh, even before the other perspective came out I was sitting here thinking that screenshots of you complaining about someone doesn’t prove anything.
I complain about people with my friends. But if I’m going to accuse them of being a shitstain in public I’m bringing RECEIPTS.
Do you have anything more substantial for those of us in the peanut gallery?
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@Pavel tw@tworst
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@Pavel First w in the English manner, second w in the German manner, at least for me, when I steal it shamelessly.
Formerly known as Seraphim73 (he/him)
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@Roadspike said in Numetal/Retromux:
@Pavel First w in the English manner, second w in the German manner, at least for me, when I steal it shamelessly.
This is the way.
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@Jenn It is known.
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As it is written.
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@Gashlycrumb How dare you insult Batty like this. I was there too, and yeah Batty forgot to water the MU* but that’s not in the same level as being a garden variety annoying pest. Go fuck yourself, idiot.
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Can this be separated into a Gatty vs Gashly thread or something? The only way that this is connected to Retro anymore is that Gatty plays a werewolf there.
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@Roadspike said in Numetal/Retromux:
@Pavel First w in the English manner, second w in the German manner, at least for me, when I steal it shamelessly.
“Twatwurst”, like “Winged” is variably pronounced in accordance with poetic requirements. See Awfuck, Lord Manybun’s classic of English verse, Ode To A Winged Twatwurst.
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I like Batty way more than I do Gashly, so take the following with as many grains of salt as you care to:
On Modern Nights both had negative points and people who actively disliked them, the game is also in the past and dead, along with my ability to get a full night’s sleep without needing to get up to pee. We can all stand here for ages, hashing out old bullshit that happened either in reality or (more likely) in reality fuelled by years worth of ‘why I aughta.’
So let’s just stuff the confhatey back in the popper and leave it all alone. We’re all shit, we’ve all done shit, been shit, and/or said shit that we wouldn’t appreciate now and wouldn’t do now.
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Just rename the thread General WoD Rage or something. I feel like it will all end up being about the same stuff anyway.
