MU Peeves Thread
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@Apos said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Pavel how do I downvote this
All my posts start with a -10 score already.
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If nothing else, I can’t think of a purer expression of disrespect. Whoa.
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@imstillhere I looked for a good one online and didn’t like them. My professional ones really are jargony and look a lot like these. The ones I think most people will be familiar with are the pages in RPG rulebooks telling you how to run combat, initiative phase, declaration, etc. The one I am talking about is the one that started when I sat down to the MU on a ‘staff work day’ for me.
@sao Oh, I wasn’t refusing to define terms. I just didn’t answer that question in less than an hour and a half. Largely this was because I was otherwise engaged, ie, having a life. Also because I was puzzling over how not to sound contemptuous while defining a term for some people while another set of people are telling me how offensive it is of me to suggest, even hyperbolically, that anyone in the hobby isn’t already using that tool.
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fight, fight, fight
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@Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:
Also because I was puzzling over how not to sound contemptuous while defining a term for some people while another set of people are telling me how offensive it is of me to suggest, even hyperbolically, that anyone in the hobby isn’t already using that tool.
I don’t think most people were saying it was offensive, just that it was wrong. Almost any way that you work is, by definition, a workflow. Is what people were pointing out.
Just because you might hate Waterfall and prefer Agile, doesn’t make Waterfall not a workflow, for example.
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Honestly this conversation has led me to believe that I am enriched simply by not knowing what a workflow is, so I’m glad to go on about my business at this point.
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@sao Remember when we were talking about chocolate flows? Can we revisit that?
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@Snackness is this what circling back feels like?
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@Snackness Please. Yes. All the chocolate.
@sao In my current position, I set up customized workflows for (large corporate scientific research) clients. Essentially, there is a standard operating procedure (SOP) for each sub-task their scientists do in order to conduct their experiments/analyses in a repeatable fashion. I arrange pieces of software that help them keep track of what options are allowed per the SOP relating to the step of the process they’re currently on.
Basically, a workflow as I understand it is a big decision tree so that work (science) can be done consistently and repeatably by different humans.
This is understandable when one is doing science at a large lab (or even a small one, if one is publishing it). I cannot think of any possible reason to have a formal workflow when playing pretendy fun-time games. One might want to be consistent but there’s very little need for repeatability nor is it likely anyone will get audited or investigated over any of this (one hopes!).
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@sao We tabled it, we put a pin in it, I do think it’s time to circle back and ideate.
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Structure and process is great and helpful but in my experience in something as casual as MU staffing, I think flexibility is just more valuable than a really structured development workflow.
idk it doesn’t necessarily seem that useful to talk about since the very obvious Way Too Little and Way Too Much are what is going to come to mind in any discussion.
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@Gashlycrumb said in MU Peeves Thread:
ie, having a life.
not just specific to this but lol can we stop using this as something to bludgeon one another with
everyone has a life
unless you are not alive
even then you have an afterlife!!
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@tsar i’m gonna be shitposting on here as a ghost i s2g. haunting the fuck out of all of you
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@tsar unless you’re undead.
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@glitch in that case–
look, over there. brains. (somewhere. not near. far away from here.)
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double post because my words are that important.
no i will not be apologizing for my joke implying theres no brains here.
in fact, i think you guys owe ME an apology for not liking and/or laughing at my post appropriately.
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@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:
@tsar i’m gonna be shitposting on here as a ghost i s2g. haunting the fuck out of all of you
“I don’t even breathe anymore, but I’m just asking questions.”
Or… do you mean a different kind of ghost?
