MU Peeves Thread
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The one problem I’ve encountered on the lone Ares game I’ve played is that people seemed to forget that I was actually in the scene if I didn’t pose every hour. Hopefully, as people have gotten more used to the async nature of it, they’ve mitigated that behaviour somewhat. But there’s nothing as disheartening as waking up and checking out that scene you joined before bed to discover that it’s over and you didn’t really get to participate.
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@Pavel I’ve made statements similar to the players on my game that tend to work more in async scenes. That not everyone is going to reply readily as others will.
I think it’s just a habit, not even a bad habit, just a habit. It’s also been a long time since I did any kind of forum RP, which I associate a lot with those kind of Ares scenes. Reminds me a lot of that.
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That isn’t all that unique to async RP either. All it takes is one or two people with a sparse posing style and a little too much enthusiasm for 3PR to get essentially written out of a scene, which as someone who has always been a ponderous poser is also is real unfun.
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It really doesn’t matter the scene size with the ‘rapid fire’ types. I was in a scene with like me + 2 others and 1 person would respond to every pose plus add ‘filler’ if people don’t pose quick enough. It makes it very difficult to respond to people like that.
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Just a quick vibe check- some of us are definitely people who like to pose short and fast.
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@shit-piss-love said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just a quick vibe check- some of us are definitely people who like to pose short and fast.
Sure, but if you’ve posed five times and I’ve posed once… take a break.
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I’m neither fast or slow of a poser. I just forget to pose when it’s my turn.
I’m a bad person.
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@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:
Sure, but if you’ve posed five times and I’ve posed once… take a break.
“If the scene has had 5 total poses over an hour, write less.”
This is why I’m asking for a vibe check. This is a cultural argument that can get way out of hand.
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@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:
All it takes is one or two people with a sparse posing style and a little too much enthusiasm for 3PR to get essentially written out of a scene, which as someone who has always been a ponderous poser is also is real unfun.
@shit-piss-love said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just a quick vibe check- some of us are definitely people who like to pose short and fast.
If you’re the one posing every 20 minutes and the rest of us are posing every 5 minutes? You’re gonna get left behind.
If you’re the one posing every 5 minutes and the rest of us are posing every 20 minutes? You’re gonna get ignored.
Read the room, people.
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@shit-piss-love said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just a quick vibe check- some of us are definitely people who like to pose short and fast.
There’s nothing wrong with shorter, punchier poses! I usually try to match the other people in the scene anyway and keep my wordier garbage for one on one stuff. The peeve here is peeps who lack consideration and just bulldoze everyone else aside.
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@KarmaBum In the case of async scenes, how quickly you can pose should be irrelevant. That’s part of the point of doing things asynchronously.
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:
All it takes is one or two people with a sparse posing style and a little too much enthusiasm for 3PR to get essentially written out of a scene, which as someone who has always been a ponderous poser is also is real unfun.
@shit-piss-love said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just a quick vibe check- some of us are definitely people who like to pose short and fast.
If you’re the one posing every 20 minutes and the rest of us are posing every 5 minutes? You’re gonna get left behind.
If you’re the one posing every 5 minutes and the rest of us are posing every 20 minutes? You’re gonna get ignored.
Read the room, people.
Totally. The hobby could use a lot more of this. I like to write a chonker as much as the next person but there’s times when it’s actively detrimental. Like an in-depth conversation about a topic that requires a lot of back and forth discussion. For political games especially this moves so many scenes, that are the meat of the RP I’m there for, outside of the actual game to be resolved entirely OOC and it’s infuriating.
Sometimes this is fine:
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I think its really situation dependent. 1 on 1 or with a small group of posers with roughly the same posing speed, i am ok with most anything. Whether that’s work slow or like 10 minutes to form a pose. (I’ll likely annoy people in the latter bc while I do have strategies to increase my speed, I have some limitations too for processing, so I’m probably more like 10-15 at my rapid fire level).
The difficulty comes for me when a scene is one way and then someone comes in who is on a way different time scale. I tend to fret about not wanting to exclude or be impolite to folks but when I’m in a 15-20 minute for a pose scene and someone wants to join and then is on the more 45-60 minutes rate and there’s just 3 of us i get antsy when its not an asynchronous scene. Same thing honestly when someone wants to come in but then just…lurk…for most of the scene and it only a 3 or 4 person scene in a space where that would be noticeable. There’s nothing wrong with either one, it’s just a preference. But it doesn’t for me feel good when someone hops into a small scene and then just kind of ignores any kind of interaction that I try to have with them or doesn’t engage with anyone at all. I totally get that with large scenes and wallflowering, though.
I’m wordy poser and get embarrassed about it sometimes, but I try to also be respectful or ask if someone minds or is overwhelmed esp in a 2 person scene. I also like to ask about speed bc I find that there isn’t an “expected” one these days and I do really like that. Mostly I want to feel like the person is engaged and having fun, so whatever helps that is great. The worst feeling is when I’m pretty sure the other person is bored and uninterested.
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
If you’re the one posing every 20 minutes and the rest of us are posing every 5 minutes
I bow out? Not what I was referring to. I have had the pleasure of being in scenes where the ratio was more like their 3 minutes to everyone else’s 7, lol. That is a very specific kind of player and feels pretty deliberate.
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To be clear I have no problem at all with people who are “long posers” or whatnot. You do you I’m not the Wrongfun Police.
What I do want to avoid are the trigger phrases “low effort posing”, “shit posing”, and “low quality writers”. This topic has a tendency to descend to that level and I don’t wanna.
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While I haven’t seen it personally in quite some time, I have definitely seen rapid fire one-liners between a specific cluster of folks definitely used to sideline others or cut them out. And it’s not a speculation on my part–unfortunately with one particular group who did that regularly they were bragging about doing that, and laughing about it while it was ongoing, on chan on a different game.
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@shit-piss-love those terms are often turned on long-length posers as well, tbh. A lot of time what it means is “stuff I don’t like” to the person using those terms.
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@mietze That sucks.
I definitely have less patience for slow posers than I used to. A lot of my scenes have to fit in that window between getting off work and passing out for the night, and it very much hurts to have a scene never even get past the small talk stage because there are three-four people and at least two of them take 20+ minutes a piece to pose.
It’s fine if I’m warned in advance, because I can decide whether I want to spend five hours on what amounts to a ten minute conversation. But god, I really wish people had ‘typical pose time’ emblazoned on their character object so that I knew what I was getting into.
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
While I haven’t seen it personally in quite some time, I have definitely seen rapid fire one-liners between a specific cluster of folks definitely used to sideline others or cut them out. And it’s not a speculation on my part–unfortunately with one particular group who did that regularly they were bragging about doing that, and laughing about it while it was ongoing, on chan on a different game.
I have seen that. I’ve also seen someone use their 20-minute wait, 3 paragraph poses as a flex of their new org leader roster.
Being someone who prefers short or long poses is neither good nor bad. It’s how you treat the people you’re playing with.