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    • MegM
      Meg @icanbeyourmuse
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      @icanbeyourmuse I actually vaguely remember having a MSB ‘fight’ with Rucket on one side defending someone that other people were saying did a ‘Bad’ thing (i forget what, or why). But now they are here! Like. I do not think anyone needs to agree all the time. I do not think we actually hold as many grudges as people present.

      Like, even hobos. No one was actually going around and pointing out they cheated code on a game in /every/ post. Not in politics, not in anything else. And even in the arx threads on MSB, I think it only got mentioned once during the whole VK conversation? I honestly should go dig up the receipts, but I’m too tired. I’d encourage hobos to look into their own receipts.

      Which actually reminded me that I promised someone I’d look into my own receipts on a topic and reflect if the hogpit opened back up.

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      • RozR
        Roz
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        Also, FWIW, VK may have made a buried apology specifically about lying to people about her identity amid the big post she made. But I don’t think she ever apologized for the host of other behavior people objected to that happened before she even did that. Before she dropped Monique the first time and then returned. So people have little reason to believe an apology from someone they already had a bad experience with who doesn’t seem to show any acknowledgment of all these other parts of her behavior.

        she/her | playlist

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          Selira @Meg
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          @Meg I, frankly, want the people I spend time around to call me out when I get high on my own bullshit and get me to chill the fuck out rather than pretend everything is alright.

          By and large, that’s what I’ve seen happen – if someone goes too far, they get reined in, but their opinion isn’t discarded in the future unless they’ve egregiously and repeatedly shown the same pattern. Engage in good faith and it gets returned.

          I don’t mean this to be patting each other on the back, but more just … that’s the community I want, not faux positivity where people are hissing through their smiles.

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          • bear_necessitiesB
            bear_necessities
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            OK but let me point out that for all this talk of forgiveness and letting go, why haven’t you (@hobos) addressed that it was Macha who brought up this 10 year grudge against Roz in the first place, directly with someone she knew was a friend of Roz and would defend her?

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            • NarsonN
              Narson @icanbeyourmuse
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              @icanbeyourmuse said in Bannings:

              /My/ experience with this group is they often hold grudges for a long, very long, time but at least /try/ to give benefits of the doubt, even against people they don’t like at all. Also, that they often act in chained reactions. For example, Rucket (using him because I know him) gets upset at someone and gets into an altercation with that person. His friends get upset he’s upset and get involved. It gradually spirals in lots of people expressing their feels, on both sides. Which is very much what I think happened with the stuff on MSB involving Derp as admin and farfella being banned.

              Just replying to this to say there is way more than one group here, and indeed many little groupuscules within it. For example, you and I know each other well. But I also know Roz. Equally, Roz often - I think - wants to throttle me for being wrong (and not just about vinegar on bread, the most delicious snack). Because we also have different cultural backgrounds etc. I think we often like to paper over all these cleavages for simple narratives. We shouldn’t say people aren’t connected, but we shouldn’t try to talk about ourselves as a singularity or even suggest that is good or desired.

              As for Derp as admin and Farfalla, I don’t know how chained it was. Farfalla is a quiet person in a lot of ways. Reticent about championing themsevles in many cases. Now, I like Farfalla, again sometimes we disagree on things but I’d like to think we are friends. But I would hope I would have engaged the same way were it someone else with her profile. And the fact people from across the groups on MSB reacted shouldn’t be necessarily swept away. It was such an obvious injustice that it provoked the reaction. The link there, I think, is that the appointment of Derp without talking to the community, or indeed talking to Mietze (who is so important to Gany that Gany shoved her right under the bus, and reversed it back and forth a few times for certainty) broke trust. At which point people weren’t willing to trust the ‘wait and we will deal with it’ line when it finally came out (bear in mind it took some reaction to even get that).

              When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                catzilla
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                @hobos Are you being purposefully obtuse or just her newest victim?

                I would like to know what sort of pity to throw your way.

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                • PrototartP
                  Prototart @hobos
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                  @hobos

                  Macha was always nice to me, and she invited me to her game before anybody had heard about it, but she got super weird with a friend of mine, doing this whisper campaign insisting she was like covertly going to murder every player character who was in an arc my friend was running while at the same time telling my friend she had no idea where people were hearing that

                  The punchline is that all of this was on a free form consent-based game where you literally cannot kill other player characters

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                  • MegM
                    Meg
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                    On another note, if we are ever considering BMD to be someone’s living room, rather than the town square that I think a lot of us consider it to be (???), then I would very much like to be informed.

                    Sorry, I want to be in a living room with friends. I don’t want to be stuck in a living room with a bunch of randos. I’ll attend a MU* con, but I won’t have you all back to my hotel room.

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                      icanbeyourmuse @Narson
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                      @Narson I suppose my brain is associating ‘group’ as MSB people, and BMD people over the mini-groups per board.

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                      • TezT
                        Tez Administrators @Meg
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                        @Meg said in Bannings:

                        On another note, if we are ever considering BMD to be someone’s living room, rather than the town square that I think a lot of us consider it to be (???), then I would very much like to be informed.

                        Sorry, I want to be in a living room with friends. I don’t want to be stuck in a living room with a bunch of randos. I’ll attend a MU* con, but I won’t have you all back to my hotel room.

                        The living room policy is something I will always associate with Firan so, you know, I think that is ALL I WILL SAY ON THAT.

                        she/they

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                        • NarsonN
                          Narson @icanbeyourmuse
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                          @icanbeyourmuse said in Bannings:

                          @Narson I suppose my brain is associating ‘group’ as MSB people, and BMD people over the mini-groups per board.

                          I’m sure - just thought it bore spelling out given how stuff gets analysed and dissected over the divide etc.

                          When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                            Selira
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                            why do I feel like I’m seeing the beginnings of an orgy here

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                              Testament @Selira
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                              @Selira said in Bannings:

                              why do I feel like I’m seeing the beginnings of an orgy here

                              When did Firan reopen?

                              I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                Selira @Testament
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                                @Testament it sounds like it’s in @meg’s hotel room, if I’m reading this right?

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                                • NarsonN
                                  Narson @Tez
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                                  @Tez said in Bannings:

                                  @Meg said in Bannings:

                                  On another note, if we are ever considering BMD to be someone’s living room, rather than the town square that I think a lot of us consider it to be (???), then I would very much like to be informed.

                                  Sorry, I want to be in a living room with friends. I don’t want to be stuck in a living room with a bunch of randos. I’ll attend a MU* con, but I won’t have you all back to my hotel room.

                                  The living room policy is something I will always associate with Firan so, you know, I think that is ALL I WILL SAY ON THAT.

                                  If only some genius had already compared certain recent events to the last days of Firan. That person would be smug right now.

                                  When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                                  • helveticaH
                                    helvetica @Selira
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                                    @Selira said in Bannings:

                                    @Testament it sounds like it’s in @meg’s hotel room, if I’m reading this right?

                                    if it has its own livingroom, it’s a suite

                                    Street Cred

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                                    • JennkrystJ
                                      Jennkryst
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                                      hot

                                      Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                                      She/her

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                                        Testament @Narson
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                                        @Narson said in Bannings:

                                        @Tez said in Bannings:

                                        @Meg said in Bannings:

                                        On another note, if we are ever considering BMD to be someone’s living room, rather than the town square that I think a lot of us consider it to be (???), then I would very much like to be informed.

                                        Sorry, I want to be in a living room with friends. I don’t want to be stuck in a living room with a bunch of randos. I’ll attend a MU* con, but I won’t have you all back to my hotel room.

                                        The living room policy is something I will always associate with Firan so, you know, I think that is ALL I WILL SAY ON THAT.

                                        If only some genius had already compared certain recent events to the last days of Firan. That person would be smug right now.

                                        Was that person you? I just hadn’t made a Firan joke in ages, I felt like one was due.

                                        I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                        • NarsonN
                                          Narson @Testament
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                                          @Testament said in Bannings:

                                          @Narson said in Bannings:

                                          @Tez said in Bannings:

                                          @Meg said in Bannings:

                                          On another note, if we are ever considering BMD to be someone’s living room, rather than the town square that I think a lot of us consider it to be (???), then I would very much like to be informed.

                                          Sorry, I want to be in a living room with friends. I don’t want to be stuck in a living room with a bunch of randos. I’ll attend a MU* con, but I won’t have you all back to my hotel room.

                                          The living room policy is something I will always associate with Firan so, you know, I think that is ALL I WILL SAY ON THAT.

                                          If only some genius had already compared certain recent events to the last days of Firan. That person would be smug right now.

                                          Was that person you? I just hadn’t made a Firan joke in ages, I felt like one was due.

                                          smug

                                          When someone shows you who they are, over and over again? Believe them.

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                                          • saoS
                                            sao @Narson
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                                            @Narson oh I’m sorry. I thought that was just your face

                                            let it be a challenge to you

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