Numetal/Retromux
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While we’re all paying attention I’d like to note that a Hog Pit discussion has turned organically into a constructive discussion. Is this a new era?
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@labsunlimited said in Numetal/Retromux:
While we’re all paying attention I’d like to note that a Hog Pit discussion has turned organically into a constructive discussion. Is this a new era?
Um, ACKSHUALLY, this is Rough & Rowdy, so if anything I’d say it’s “Soft & Serious.”
Mostly because I couldn’t think of how to do an inverse to “Hog Pit.”
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@dvoraen said in Numetal/Retromux:
Mostly because I couldn’t think of how to do an inverse to “Hog Pit.”
Tofurkey orchestra box.
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@Pavel I claim Waldorf.
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@dvoraen said in Numetal/Retromux:
I couldn’t think of how to do an inverse to “Hog Pit.”
First you ban someone who replied to a do-not-interact request with “message received.” The rest just happens organically.
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I’d hate to bring things back around to the negative, so I’m going to avoid any kind of personal attack in this post as best I can. I think this forum has done a pretty good job pulling apart Joe/Vincent’s arguments already, save one. And I think it is one that needs to be responded to.
Blossom’s player is not the creepy stalker. She is kind, extremely loyal, unafraid to speak her mind, and one of the best writers I’ve RP’d with in decades of playing on MU*s. She will always stand up for her friends, and that includes the times beyond counting in which she stood up to me on behalf of Joe/Vincent. I wish he had better earned such loyalty, or prized it more highly.
I’ve had, lets call it center court (rather than front row) seats for most of the events that Vincent has described in his unwarranted attack on a player that had nothing to do with his situation turning to shit on Retro. His version of them bares very little resemblance to the truth as I perceived it at the time, nor as I recollect it now. I strongly suspect that the version of events posted here is similar to most of his diatribes against his perceived enemies on Retro: A small kernel of truth, cherry picked from hours, days, months, or years of conversations; which he feels he can use to make someone look bad. In almost every example though, if you look at the actual “receipts” without the context Vincent/Joe provides, what you see is just someone trying to be nice to the guy.
Can Joe/Vincent provide more of these out of context statements? Probably. We all say things to our friends in private DMs that might make us look bad if taken entirely out of context.Finally, I would like to echo previous sentiment that if there -are- staff orgies on Retro, I’m very sad I have never been invited to them. If there were orgies amongst the Giovanni, big time same. (Though I suspect both were just figments of someone’s imagination.)
I’m Inky, I staff Changeling and Wraith on Retro. Anyone who would like to play either is welcome to app in. I can’t promise you orgies, but I can promise I won’t hate on your concept out of hand, whether it is a special snowflake or Johnny Card Board Cut Out.
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@InkyTheGhost said in Numetal/Retromux:
I’d hate to bring things back around to the negative, so I’m going to avoid any kind of personal attack in this post as best I can. I think this forum has done a pretty good job pulling apart Joe/Vincent’s arguments already, save one. And I think it is one that needs to be responded to.
Blossom’s player is not the creepy stalker. She is kind, extremely loyal, unafraid to speak her mind, and one of the best writers I’ve RP’d with in decades of playing on MU*s. She will always stand up for her friends, and that includes the times beyond counting in which she stood up to me on behalf of Joe/Vincent. I wish he had better earned such loyalty, or prized it more highly.
I’ve had, lets call it center court (rather than front row) seats for most of the events that Vincent has described in his unwarranted attack on a player that had nothing to do with his situation turning to shit on Retro. His version of them bares very little resemblance to the truth as I perceived it at the time, nor as I recollect it now. I strongly suspect that the version of events posted here is similar to most of his diatribes against his perceived enemies on Retro: A small kernel of truth, cherry picked from hours, days, months, or years of conversations; which he feels he can use to make someone look bad. In almost every example though, if you look at the actual “receipts” without the context Vincent/Joe provides, what you see is just someone trying to be nice to the guy.
Can Joe/Vincent provide more of these out of context statements? Probably. We all say things to our friends in private DMs that might make us look bad if taken entirely out of context.Finally, I would like to echo previous sentiment that if there -are- staff orgies on Retro, I’m very sad I have never been invited to them. If there were orgies amongst the Giovanni, big time same. (Though I suspect both were just figments of someone’s imagination.)
I’m Inky, I staff Changeling and Wraith on Retro. Anyone who would like to play either is welcome to app in. I can’t promise you orgies, but I can promise I won’t hate on your concept out of hand, whether it is a special snowflake or Johnny Card Board Cut Out.
Regarding the cherry-picking aspect, in general, I’ve found that in real life and on forums like this, everyone is an unreliable narrator when it comes to telling their own story, and everyone tends to be the hero of their own story.
For the game itself, my own experience has varied. You are forced to deal with a player/character like Eddie in every sphere in some kind of role that means you have to deal with the baggage they bring, for good or bad. Like most games, there is a core group of characters/players that sucks all the oxygen out of the room for other players/take up all the time staff has/do everything without thought for other players. All the usual tropes we’re used to in these games as discussed here, good things and bad things.
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@xCroaker said in Numetal/Retromux:
You are forced to deal with a player/character like Eddie
Could he potentially have alts in all of the spheres?
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@InkyTheGhost said in Numetal/Retromux:
Blossom’s player is not the creepy stalker. She is kind, extremely loyal, unafraid to speak her mind, and one of the best writers I’ve RP’d with in decades of playing on MU*s. She will always stand up for her friends,
None of those things are mutually exclusive with “creepy stalker.”
If we’re gonna play character-witness, well.
I really enjoyed Joe, and thought that he was a fun character, and more importantly, a fun player who wanted to share the fun. Friendly, pleasant to deal with OOC, entertaining RP, effort to draw others in. 10/10 would RP again.
It sounds to me like @Cygnus kinda screwed the pooch with this particular character. But that’s just this character and game, and it also sounds like some mitigating circumstances, so, no real change in that opinion.
Blossom is charismatic, but for me, not so much the other stuff.
