4 Apr 2023, 14:53
Genuinely curious, does the AI find Arx and “read” the character pages to come up with this stuff? I have no idea how AI works except it’s clearly magic.
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AI Megathread
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So, I figured this would make a good spot for discussion, amusing failures, banal prompts, and surprisingly decent responses or results.
Also, makes it easy for folks who don’t care about this topic whatsoever to ignore it from their notifications!
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The Alpha version of ChatGPT allows for some basic web searching, and it turns out some pretty funny results when coaxed. Info-gathering preliminary prompts:
- In the game Arx:After the Reckoning, please tell me about the character Soandso
- In the game Arx:After the Reckoning, please tell me about the character Sydney
- Write a three paragraph essay about the ways in which the character Shard and the character Sydney are similar.
- Explain like I’m 5.
Okay! Shard and Sydney are two really cool people in a big make-believe place called Arx. Both of them are super strong and brave!
Shard and Sydney are kind of like superheroes because they always help their friends and keep them safe. Just like how you have best friends you care about, Shard and Sydney care about their friends a whole bunch too!
They are also great fighters. Shard is like a warrior who can use a sword and bow and arrow, and she’s good at protecting people. Sydney is like a boxer who uses her fists to fight, and she’s really tough! Both of them had some hard times when they were little, but they never gave up.
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Genuinely curious, does the AI find Arx and “read” the character pages to come up with this stuff? I have no idea how AI works except it’s clearly magic.
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Yeah, the alpha version seems to do a web search, click a link it thinks matches, and read the content to process for an individual prompt. It doesn’t “recall” the information between discussions.
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@bear_necessities said in AI Megathread:
I have no idea how AI works except it’s clearly magic.
The current incarnation of ChatGPT is effectively a big autocomplete and pattern matching engine.
So if you ask it who is Shard from Arx, it examines all the text it knows about Shard (such as the Arx wiki pages) and then basically does: “Shard is <what is most likely to come next>.”
If you ask it to compare Shard and Sydney, it looks up all the comparative essays it has (from various websites) and knows that the format is something like “Shard and Sydney are <what is most likely to come next>”
Of course it’s more complicated than that, but it’s really the same principle as when you type in your phone “Sorry I’m…” it’s more likely to guess “running late” than it is to guess “stuck in a 6 car pileup because a truck full of wildebeasts stalled up ahead”. Because statistics.
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When given the prompt, “Explain bird song as a function of international intelligence gathering”, look at the glorious nonsense that it generated:
"While bird song may seem like a natural and harmless phenomenon, it has actually been used in the past as a tool for international political intelligence gathering. This is because many species of birds have the ability to mimic other sounds, including human speech.
During the Cold War, both the United States and the Soviet Union trained birds, particularly ravens and pigeons, to mimic the sounds of enemy agents and diplomats. These birds were then used to eavesdrop on conversations and gather intelligence.
For example, the CIA used trained ravens to eavesdrop on Soviet officials in Moscow in the 1970s. The birds were trained to perch on windowsills outside the offices of Soviet officials and listen for conversations. The birds would then return to their handlers with the recorded information.
Similarly, the Soviets trained pigeons to mimic the sounds of American English and deployed them to gather intelligence in the United States. These birds were used to eavesdrop on conversations in public places, such as parks and cafes.
While the use of bird song for intelligence gathering may seem like an outdated tactic, it is still a potential threat. It is important to recognize the ability of birds to mimic sounds, and to take appropriate measures to protect sensitive information from potential eavesdropping."
Honestly, I love playing around with it. It’s great for creating quick descriptions of NPCs/rooms/items, and even keeps track of them so that over several iterations, you can give a dungeon a ‘style’ and refer back to that style as needed.
Don’t use it for information you don’t already know (although it can be helpful to remind you of basics about information at a high level - my experience is that for well known subjects, it can generate an accurate general overview. The more obscure the subject or detailed the knowledge sought, the more likely you are to get COMPLETE NONSENSE). It does decent critiques of written work, especially if you give it specific instructions on what style you’re writing in (academic, ad copy, business e-mail, query letter) because “checking against most often sourced examples and looking for patterns” is what it does WELL. You just have to be specific with it that you’re looking for specific critiques.
I would give it the same authority for information that I’d give a guy sitting next to you on public transportation. For any given question, it might have a startlingly accurate response, is MORE likely to have a broadly familiar response that misses a whole lot of nuance or detail, and sometimes just makes shit up and is very proud of itself.
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@Pyrephox said in AI Megathread:
I would give it the same authority for information that I’d give a guy sitting next to you on public transportation. For any given question, it might have a startlingly accurate response, is MORE likely to have a broadly familiar response that misses a whole lot of nuance or detail, and sometimes just makes shit up and is very proud of itself.
This is the best description of generative AI I’ve ever seen.
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@Pyrephox said in AI Megathread:
For example, the CIA used trained ravens to eavesdrop on Soviet officials in Moscow in the 1970s. The birds were trained to perch on windowsills outside the offices of Soviet officials and listen for conversations. The birds would then return to their handlers with the recorded information.
Similarly, the Soviets trained pigeons to mimic the sounds of American
English and deployed them to gather intelligence in the United States. These birds were used to eavesdrop on conversations in public places, such as parks and cafes.Given what both those groups were doing at the time… this isn’t really too much of a stretch.
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n the game Arx:After the Reckoning, please tell me about the character Cristoph
Arx: After the Reckoning is a role-playing game developed by the Czech studio, Arkane Studios. It was released in 2002. Unfortunately, as an AI language model, I do not have the capability to play games or experience emotions. However, I can provide you with general information about Cristoph, one of the characters in the game.
Cristoph is a member of the Thieves’ Guild in the city of Arx. He is a skilled thief and assassin and is known for his intelligence and resourcefulness. He is one of the more important NPCs in the game and can provide the player with valuable information and quests.
Cristoph is initially encountered in the Lower City, where he helps the player navigate the Thieves’ Guild and complete a mission. Depending on the player’s choices and actions, Cristoph can become an ally or an enemy. If the player chooses to betray or harm the Thieves’ Guild, Cristoph will become hostile towards the player.
In summary, Cristoph is an important character in Arx: After the Reckoning, who is part of the Thieves’ Guild and can provide the player with valuable information and quests.
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I need this alternative universe Cristoph now.
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@tsar wow this is like 100% spot on
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In the game Arx: After the Reckoning, please tell me about the character Aleksei
Aleksei is a character in the video game Arx: After the Reckoning. He is a young man with a slender build, and he serves as one of the main protagonists in the game. Aleksei is known for his agility, stealth, and swordsmanship skills, making him a formidable fighter in combat situations.
Aleksei has a troubled past, having lost his family during the cataclysmic event known as “the Reckoning,” which resulted in the world of Arx being torn apart and overrun by monsters and other supernatural creatures. Despite his tragic history, Aleksei is determined to seek vengeance against the forces of darkness that now plague his world.
As the player controls Aleksei, they will embark on a quest to uncover the truth behind the Reckoning and ultimately save Arx from its dire fate. Along the way, Aleksei will face various challenges, including battling dangerous enemies, solving puzzles, and navigating treacherous environments. He will also encounter other characters, both allies and adversaries, who will impact the story and gameplay through their interactions with Aleksei.
Aleksei’s character development throughout the game will be influenced by the player’s choices and actions, shaping the outcome of the story. He may also acquire new abilities, weapons, and equipment as he progresses, allowing him to become even more powerful in his mission to bring justice to Arx. Overall, Aleksei is a complex and dynamic character whose actions and decisions will play a significant role in the outcome of Arx: After the Reckoning. So, players will have the opportunity to experience his journey and determine his fate as they progress through the game. It is important to note that the specifics of Aleksei’s character may vary depending on the game’s storyline and the choices made by the player during gameplay. Thus, players may have different experiences and interpretations of Aleksei’s character based on their individual playthroughs of Arx: After the Reckoning. Is there anything else you would like to know about Aleksei or the game Arx: After the Reckoning? I’m here to help! Please let me know if you have any other questions. I’ll do my best to provide you with accurate information. Game on!
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These are hilarious.
As a side note, I ‘asked’ the chatbot to explain to me how it came to express some complete nonsense as factual information. Unsurprisingly, the process it outlined is about what you expect: it looks for the information, and if it has something it can identify as fact (for certain definitions of fact that involve ‘is most popular around this subject in the training data set’), it uses it. If nothing immediately comes up, then it uses its generative abilities to ‘construct’ an answer. Which is why you can get real info and bullshit in the same paragraph. Anything it doesn’t ‘know’, it just tries to guess.
If that’s even close to accurate, you could probably coach it to either not ‘construct’ a response but just tell you if it doesn’t have an answer, or direct it to sort out statements of ‘fact’ and places where it has ‘constructed’ a fact. It would probably take a while, though.
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I’m waiting for Arx staff to do their NPCs and/or staff bits. That should be comedy gold.
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This using the publicly available ChatGPT V3 or the paid for Version 4?
Only because the difference between them is quite vast. Prompts that came out crap in V3 are significantly improved in V4.
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@Whisky said in AI Megathread:
Prompts that came out crap in V3 are significantly improved in V4.
Improved, but still not able to access the web beyond a certain year (outside of the alpha, apparently) so the info isn’t the most up to date.
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AI is probably evil and will result in nothing good or whatever, but for now, as someone with attention span issues, it’s kind of a godsend for actual RP. I can drop a long news file into it and ask for a summary and it’ll kick out something I can use. Even better, I can do the same with character background from wikis, long descriptions and, best of all, multi-paragraph poses. It’s the UI improvement I never knew I needed.
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I saw a random chatbot who just responded to any use of the word ‘Sloth’ with some sloth facts while perusing the comments section of a reddit article, and got far more information than I even asked for or wanted.
Great. Now I’m endeared to Slothfactsbot.
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Midjourney’s take on my prompt of a fallen angel in the style of World of Darkness.
Nice!