@Aria He’s SO FUCKING BAD at flirting that for me it wraps back around to adorable.
I think what got me was that he was talking about nights reading in front of the fireplace with his companion and I just, like, assumed he was going on about Mystra again?
And then dialog options were like, “Gale, are you talking about your cat??”
At which pointmy brain shorted out because I was like, “Wait, IS he waxing poetic about his cat?!”
Yes. Yes, he was. It was hilarious and I kind of love Larian for generating that much of a WTF reaction from me and my character. Right until he brought up being unwashed and into it, which made it weird again.
@Aria after essentially not talking to Gale thru Act 1 and most of Act 2, he just the other night sat me down and told me he was in love with me. I just stared at my screen like what the fuck??? We’ve never even had a moment!
@bear_necessities Frankly I think this just speaks to how well they captured the heart and soul of an entitled white male.*
Don’t come after me, Gale-lovers. I love him too.
^This. There is a whole lot of weird misogyny in the BG3 meme world that pretty much boils down to “Why don’t women like Gale, who is clearly such a NICE GUY?”
Astarion just want s me for my blood.
Wyll is playing hard to get.
Gale is like that old joke about lesbians: What does a lesbian bring to a second date? A U-Haul.
After having more time with her on a second go-round, Lae’zel…
(Probably a Cold take:)
…has the most growth of any party member, and it’s depressing that she gets such a bad rap when she’s arguably the least static character, tied closely with Shadowheart. I feel like a lot of folks bench her before they get to see it.
Anyhow. Generally feel like societal norms did her dirty.
@Solstice Lae’zel has absolutely grown on me as I’ve seen more of her plot and after their big pitch fixing the bug that @Vulgar-Boy mentioned above.
In my first playthrough, it was just her constantly saying really insulting things to me right up until she’s like, “You would slaughter a dragon and then use it to murder another dragon!! LET’S BANG.” And I was just like, “I really do not need negging from some weird Githyanki PUA, so Imma peace out and take Karlach on everything that needs fighty missions as soon as I find her, thnxbye.”
I really wish that bug hadn’t been in - it kinda skewed the first characters in your party into being weird and pushy. And for me, it trapped me in ‘Gale Romance Land’ because I watched his magic show. Didn’t get my rep up fast enough with the people I wanted to romance in time when I read about that bug. Still grumpy.
I reached the point of no return with two characters, ended up rolling back with one character b/c getting their messed up a bunch of other plots. And then landed fast first in a romance with Astarion and was like well… I love my angsty vampire boi so ok cool.
After having more time with her on a second go-round, Lae’zel…
(Probably a Cold take:)
…has the most growth of any party member, and it’s depressing that she gets such a bad rap when she’s arguably the least static character, tied closely with Shadowheart. I feel like a lot of folks bench her before they get to see it.
Anyhow. Generally feel like societal norms did her dirty.
Thank you.
Lae’zel gets a huge a bad rap.
Now, canonically in Forgotten Realms canon, Githyanki are huuuuuge xenophobic genocidal assholes, even if that wholly isn’t their fault. Never mind that not every Gith is a Githyanki, since there is also a completely other off-shoot of the race. So you have Githyanki(followers of Gith) and Githerazi(deniers of Gith), the latter being a faction that actually, y’know, wants to cooperatively work with other races with eradicating illithid.
While the Githyanki really do want go through with burning down all the realms and controlling them. Which is largely based on the idea of “We were enslaved once, so we’ll enslave everyone else so it never happens to us again”. They just don’t because they’re too busy killing Mind Flayers. I’m not putting spoiler tags on this, because this has been Forgotten Realms lore for decades.
The fact that Lae’zel probably had arguably the most character growth as Shadowheart, but nobody really talks about it because Lae’zel, until later in the game, is just written off as ‘an angry bitch with a sword’.
I mean, when you’re romancing her in Act 2, she wants to duel you, to prove that you can be “her’s”. Here is some wild shit. It’s far better that she beats you, because she stops the fight because she “Can’t bear to hurt you anymore”. The murderous Githyanki that would do anything for undead Queen is is like “No, I can’t do this to you. I want to protect you, not hurt you.” And to me, I was like ‘damn, this is not the same character I started out with that was going to point blank murder my ass until the tadpole intervened.’
I just find her unpleasant. She’s grown on me more, but I still find her needlessly unpleasant. I find Wyll to just be, well, dull. How someone so charismatic can be so dull is beyond me but he is.
Gale is one fedora away from being a Nice Guy.
I just find Karlach, Shadowheart, and Astarian to be the best party. I’d take Halsin more but I have Shadowheart for heals. And I need Astarian for lockpicking and for pure melee output Karlach is the only party member that can keep up with my murderhobo fighter.
I’ve been reading up on why exactly is Gale reacting so strangely to people when you get into relationships with other character. And apparently it’s not because it’s the character, but rather that the character’s dialogue and approval reactions are all bugged.
Now, not saying this to suddenly change people’s minds, but if you’re wondering why he gets mad you’re boning other people when you’ve literally never spoken with him, it’s because the game is using dialogue lines from scenes as if you had been taking/flirting with him. However, this might make it easier to cut his hand off in your next Durge playthrough and not have him in the party at all.
Larian has said that Patch 3 is coming out…next week I think, so hopefully they’ll work on that. Or maybe it’s such a meme at this point they’ll just leave it.
They still nerfed Barrelmancy, and I still haven’t forgiven them for that.
Wyll is boring because they fell prey to a classic blunder: they had the interesting conflict baked into his concept happen before the game even starts.
The INTEREST in a HEROIC character is putting them in situations that either tempt or require them to compromise their principles and act unheroically, and how they deal with that. That already happened. The Wyll we get is just boring. Maybe he’s more interesting if you – don’t save him from himself, with Karlach. But who could test that?? WHO WOULD LOSE KARLACH for the chance that maybe Wyll is a tiny bit more interesting?
I just finished Act 2. I feel mildly grumpy b/c I feel like a major choice was taken out of my hands unless I immediately resort to violence.
But, oh well, at least Astarion still loves me.
Also I hate the black veins from taking the astral tadpole. Which I didn’t want to take! But I failed the wisdom save so the only way to not use it would have been to crush it under my boot. And I didn’t wanna do that either. :(
The little bitch threatened to leave me for another group of adventurers. I guess I’m not evil and selfish enough for him despite the blood I’ve been giving him. Well, he can sit in camp reading all day now. I replaced him with Gale.
And how the hell did I end up in a relationship with Wyll? I’ve only just talked to him and been properly sympathetic and supportive. Then all of a sudden we’re dancing and boyfriends and Gale was all, ‘sigh, well you made your choice’ and I’m all ‘When did I do that?’
@Solstice Lae’zel has absolutely grown on me as I’ve seen more of her plot and after their big pitch fixing the bug that @Vulgar-Boy mentioned above.
In my first playthrough, it was just her constantly saying really insulting things to me right up until she’s like, “You would slaughter a dragon and then use it to murder another dragon!! LET’S BANG.” And I was just like, “I really do not need negging from some weird Githyanki PUA, so Imma peace out and take Karlach on everything that needs fighty missions as soon as I find her, thnxbye.”