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    • JennkrystJ
      Jennkryst @Juniper
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      @Juniper I can kind of sort of see why someone would do it. After all, anyone who runs a Star Wars mush has outsourced the writing of a lot of the theme to George Lucas and/or whichever EU writers of the specific setting they want. Shadowrun games have outsourced their writing. WoD games outsourced their writing to White Wolf or Onyx Path…

      I mean yeah, you still gotta do more specific things for your local setting, but none of them started from scratch. They all had a world already built, they’re just adding on to it.

      This is actually supposed to be the appeal of unique settings. You’re not caught up on what some other author wrote (or having players being hyper-focused on trying to adhere to canon or that one specific bloodline’s lore or whatever).

      But also unique settings take work writing, and people be lazy. They want the benefits of no player being able to contradict the game lore, but don’t want to put in the effort of actually writing any of it.

      Or maybe I’m wrong, WHOMST CAN SAY?

      Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
      She/her

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      • GashlycrumbG
        Gashlycrumb @Jennkryst
        last edited by

        I dunno. If I, like many before me, write a story about Conan the Barbarian, I am not sure I’d describe it as having outsourced part of the work to the late Robert E. Howard. I mean, technically, yeah, but there’s sort of a fuzzy line there. If I write a story about Robin Hood did I outsource it to Anonymous? One weird drunken night a friend of mine and I wrote a hilarious libretto for an imaginary opera about Robert Downey Jr. tripping on mushrooms and getting shipped to Guam, and okay, this notion was inspired by Robert Downey Jr.'s actual drug-fueled antics in the late 90’s, but outsourced to? Hmm.

        If I cut and paste room/area descriptions from a novel and just cut and edit a little to be more MU-desc like and uniform, that seems clear plagarism/outsourcing. But not necessarily a terrible thing if the novelist doesn’t mind.

        None of these actions seem equivalent to getting a glorified markov chainer to do the job, but maybe I’m just sour; I have a lot of professional artist and writer friends.

        "This is Liberty Hall; you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard!"
        – A. Bertram Chandler

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        • ArtemisA
          Artemis
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          when players are so nasty and unpleasant to deal with you’re afraid of being spied on and bullied a second time for imposing IC consequences.
          lol this isn’t even a mush thing, i’m on a mud, but shit i just needed to say it publicly somewhere. carry on with your actual MU peeves!

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          • TezT
            Tez Administrators @Tez
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            @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

            I am begging game-runners to stop using ChatGPT.

            I AM BEGGING PLAYERS TO STOP USING CHATGPT.

            she/they

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            • CoinC
              Coin @Tez
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              @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

              @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

              I am begging game-runners to stop using ChatGPT.

              I AM BEGGING PLAYERS TO STOP USING CHATGPT.

              at this point i’m gonna hazard the suggestion of maybe telling the people in question that you can tell they’re using ChatGPT.

              maybe you can privately shame them into stopping.

              cuz they probably won’t just from reading this. XD

              In Occam I trust.

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              • TezT
                Tez Administrators @Coin
                last edited by

                @Coin You’re right. Sometimes I just need to scream into the void, though. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and tell them WE KNOW YOU ARE DOING THIS so that they can course correct, but it’s a bannable offense if they keep it up.

                AND EXASPERATING. I just don’t get it.

                she/they

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                • CoinC
                  Coin @Tez
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                  @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

                  @Coin You’re right. Sometimes I just need to scream into the void, though. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and tell them WE KNOW YOU ARE DOING THIS so that they can course correct, but it’s a bannable offense if they keep it up.

                  AND EXASPERATING. I just don’t get it.

                  I understand.

                  but also if it’s a bannable offense, imo you’re under the implicit obligation of telling them you can tell, since ‘keep it up’ suggests they’ve been warned, yah?

                  i mean, working from the absolute very little i have to go on based on how vague all this is.

                  In Occam I trust.

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                  • TezT
                    Tez Administrators @Coin
                    last edited by

                    @Coin Well, I mean, I did. I did tell the player. The first incident of screaming into the void was a separate thing: new games using ChatGPT vs new players using ChatGPT. It’s just the one right on the heels of the other makes it especially exasperating.

                    she/they

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                    • tsarT
                      tsar
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                      idk if you’re gonna send me poses written by AI just send me a link directly to the AI so I can RP with it.

                      Cut the middle man, man.

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                      • tenT
                        ten
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                        AI is so boring to RP with.

                        they | them

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                        • PavelP
                          Pavel
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                          I use ChatGPT exclusively to write my TS poses.

                          He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                          BE AN ADULT

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                          • C
                            catzilla
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                            New anxiety unlocked, that someone using chatgpt is getting more RP than you.

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                            • tenT
                              ten @Pavel
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                              @Pavel

                              dang.

                              my AI is such a stick in the mud…

                              (I threw that image prompt in Copilot.

                              No.)

                              they | them

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                              • TezT
                                Tez Administrators @Pavel
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                                @Pavel Honestly I’m just impressed. You have to really work at it to get ChatGPT to come up with anything smutty, after aggressively reassuring it that all parties are consenting to the joyous experience.

                                she/they

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                                • PavelP
                                  Pavel @Tez
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                                  @Tez said in MU Peeves Thread:

                                  @Pavel Honestly I’m just impressed. You have to really work at it to get ChatGPT to come up with anything smutty, after aggressively reassuring it that all parties are consenting to the joyous experience.

                                  Hey, I never said it was good TS. Lots of mentions of panning to <insert weird adjective choice> fireplaces.

                                  He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                  BE AN ADULT

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                                  • B
                                    Babs
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                                    I have given serious thought recently to having ChatGPT or similar fill out chargen apps for me. I just can’t bring myself to do it. I’ll RP until I pass out but write a background? Going on month 4 and no progress.

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                                    • PavelP
                                      Pavel @Babs
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                                      @Babs I’ve definitely used these virtual intelligence tools to come up with concepts or seeds for me to expand on. Not a whole backstory or character, but bits and pieces I can use to write something about - otherwise I fall into the trap of making the same character for the tenth time.

                                      He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
                                      BE AN ADULT

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                                      • Third EyeT
                                        Third Eye
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                                        I would rather read the worst background in the world than a ChatGPT app and I can’t imagine I’m alone. It fills me with despair.

                                        I want something else to get me through this
                                        Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                                        I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

                                        She/Her or They/Them

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                                        • JumpscareJ
                                          Jumpscare
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                                          A ChatGPT app can’t even come close to the appreciation I have for the person who apped into a modern-day horror game with a character whose dark backstory is that he killed the dinosaurs.

                                          Game-runner of Silent Heaven, a small-town horror MU.
                                          https://silentheaven.org

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                                          • tenT
                                            ten
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                                            @Jumpscare

                                            dinosaurs

                                            they | them

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