@dvoraen said in Unspeakables: The Politics Thread 2024:

@Roz said in Unspeakables: The Politics Thread 2024:

@dvoraen said in Unspeakables: The Politics Thread 2024:

(@Tez WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING WITH IMGUR LINKS REEEE)

Were you doing it with just the regular Imgur URL from the URL bar or did you right click on the image and get the actual direct image link?

I think it was the imgur-provided link instead of the direct one, yeah.

Yeah, then that’s just any URL for a web page; it’d be like expecting a BMD post URL to resolve to an image just because an image appeared on the page.

You have to have a URL ending with an actual image filename and extension.

ETA:

@Tez Same to you Miss Upgrader! Fix my spoiler block to redact properly!

this isn’t funny

@dvoraen said in Unspeakables: The Politics Thread 2024:

(@Tez WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING WITH IMGUR LINKS REEEE)

Were you doing it with just the regular Imgur URL from the URL bar or did you right click on the image and get the actual direct image link?

This was not accidental.

@MisterBoring said in Staff and playable pcs:

@Roz Totally. I’m all for people trying to repair relationships, but deception is not the way to make that happen.

Now, if someone came to me and was like, I want to rebuild the bridge and move on from this and in the process offered to make a new character to help push some plot I was trying to push, I’d probably see that as an olive branch.

Yeah, I’d at least respect it if someone was up-front with me.

But people also have to respect that sometimes the answer to even a polite olive branch will be “no thank you” and that’s okay.

@Coin

@Gashlycrumb said in Staff and playable pcs:

Making a new character and trying to pass yourself off as a different person because you’ve annoyed people and they don’t want to play with you is a Bad Idea even when it’s as innocent as that can be.

Having seen a recent question elsewhere about whether or not it’s “ethical” to do this to try and “repair your relationship” with people who don’t like you – big fucking agree.

(Because that idea is, in fact, incredibly creepy and unethical. If people don’t want to hang out with you, just leave them alone!!!)

@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:

That said, I have met people in this hobby who purposefully write a long background so that they can sneak story elements into the game that the staff may specifically be avoiding. I guess some people choose to take advantage of the fact that staff often don’t read the whole thing.

I’ve staffed on games where we have a background MAXIMUM and people have still tried to go over and at least once the person was like “I know that it’s over the limit but it’s important” and we just went NOPE EDIT IT DOWN.

@Faraday From what I can find, it looks like NodeBB built an entirely new default theme for v3 rather than continue to iterate on the old one. From this Github, I did find this:

For the v3.x release line, Persona will be a supported theme bundled with NodeBB, but will not be active by default.

So possibly the old style could be turned on?

@MisterBoring They used to be in your user profile, which they may still be, but now they’re also more accessible: there’s a paintbrush icon on the bottom left in the menu bar, and it’ll bring up a quick skin picker.

I’m most annoyed at the colors of my preferred skin changing lol

@MisterBoring said in Blocking Players:

As a sysadmin in my day job, I guess my perspective is a bit different than others in this regard. The people at the highest levels of staff on any game will likely have the access to review anything that happens on the game whenever they want. In some games this is easily done because the code base they are using has tools for activity tracking built in. In others, it requires a level of coding on their part to access that information. Heck, in most games that still run solely on telnet, that’s a fully plain text transmission, and anyone with the time and some free software could trap all of the activity coming and going from the game.

If a game has staff that give people ick for having access to this stuff, why are people playing on those games to begin with? If you can’t trust the high level administration of a system to act responsibly with their power, then perhaps its time we start depopulating those staffers games.

My ick was not connected to any specific game or staffers. It was generalized.

This is an age-old (or hobby-old) debate. Just because it’s fully possible for someone to code up stuff that lets them watch every command input by every single player in a constant, easy stream, doesn’t mean I think it should be a command baked into the base Ares codebase. The fact that something is possible doesn’t mean that it needs to be easily accessible.

@MisterBoring This feels like such a niche scenario compared to the overall ick of staff being able to see everyone’s block and mute lists IMO.

So my actual fuller feelings are this: blocking someone from having direct contact with you is different from wanting to mute them on channel. I think the overall philosophy of the existing pm/ignore is correct in giving the other user some sort of feedback when they attempt to page someone who’s blocked them; I don’t think the message should go into the ether.

I think that a channel/mute or channel/ignore feels like a separate thing. When I block someone, it’s serious. If I make it so that someone can’t page me, that’s a step towards No Contact. When I want to mute someone on channels, it can be a much less serious thing: I just need to not see their chattering for a while. It could very well be just a temporary breather. I don’t think that there needs to be a notification to the other party that someone’s put them on channel/ignore or whatnot.

It’s so funny how people’s game experiences vary so much! For me it was a common game softcode feature on the games I came up on, so my brain naturally assumed it was common everywhere.

@Pavel said in Blocking Players:

@Roz said in Blocking Players:

@Pavel said in Blocking Players:

In the case of forum and/or channel blocks, a feature I would recommend would be something akin to how these forums work (or at least MSB used to work, I haven’t used the feature in some time): One is alerted to the blocked person posting something, but not what they’ve said unless one clicks through to see what they’ve written. This would only work on the portal, though, so I’m not sure if that’s something you’re of a mind to implement even if it’s possible.

I would disagree with this in the case of a channel mute: if I’m muting someone because they are just so chattery or I’m BEC about them, the last thing I want is a stream of notifications about them talking.

While a fair concern, I think it’s the only design choice that makes sense given the conversational nature of channels. Not everyone will be okay with constantly missing context, or not understanding what people are responding to, etc.

Idk my feeling to that is…they just shouldn’t mute, in that case? LIke, that’s just part of gagging someone on channel. It’s how the functionality worked on older codebases.

@Pavel said in Blocking Players:

In the case of forum and/or channel blocks, a feature I would recommend would be something akin to how these forums work (or at least MSB used to work, I haven’t used the feature in some time): One is alerted to the blocked person posting something, but not what they’ve said unless one clicks through to see what they’ve written. This would only work on the portal, though, so I’m not sure if that’s something you’re of a mind to implement even if it’s possible.

I would disagree with this in the case of a channel mute: if I’m muting someone because they are just so chattery or I’m BEC about them, the last thing I want is a stream of notifications about them talking.

There’s no way to have a consensus on this, because the answer is: it depends entirely on the game.

@Jumpscare i’m too mad about people putting text in code blocks that doesn’t have a word wrap. you think i’m gonna scroll horizontally?

We do have a long-running Liberation post over here, for reference.

I’ve had this post bookmarked for a long time: Writing with Color.