@Muscle-Car Why do you think I’m always so eager to fork threads?

@helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Ominous said in MU Peeves Thread:

@spiriferida For L&L, really play up the politics, intrigue, animosity between rival families, and management aspects to the level that no one has time to knock boots on screen.

Demand characters have so many administrative skills, they become virtually unfuckable.

Joke’s on you, I’m into that shit

@howyadoin said in MU Peeves Thread:

Alright alright alright.

I just didn’t want this to turn into a discussion about policy when it’s not a matter of the policy involved but of obtaining consent under false pretenses.

You’re right. That sucks.

I just had the same reaction as @helvetica and was leaning back in my chair thinking about the the wild world of policies. Thinking about comic games making unfortunate rules about character gender and sexuality. IDK.

Our hobby sure is a place sometimes.

@Rathenhope Wanna break some laws?

I’m dying out here. What’s the policy?

ETA: Okay, okay, okay. A good and wise friend has pointed out to me that perhaps it makes sense to not want to say in all cases. Obviously lying to get TS is really fucking bad tho, okay?

@Faraday IDK, I’d just continue to call them imperfect tools. That just puts it at 1 false flag in 11 samples instead of it’s 0 false flags out of 10 samples. Still not garbage.

I think there are real issues in these tools, but I think it is a mistake to write it all off as garbage. Use it as a tool alongside human judgment. Try to use the best tool you can.

@Faraday

I don’t agree with your conclusions. From the same article:

Can AI detectors be trusted?

The results varied widely, and in some cases, dramatically.
Pangram and Originality.ai were the most reliable performers. Pangram returned 0 percent across all ten articles. Originality.ai returned 0 percent on eight of ten, with 1 percent on the remaining two. Both tools correctly identified every piece as human written.
Grammarly performed nearly as well, returning 0 percent on eight articles and flagging two at 7 percent and 9 percent respectively—low enough that neither would likely trigger concern in practice.

3 out of 5 did okay? They are tools to use alongside human reasoning. But demonstrably they aren’t garbage.

@Muscle-Car said in Age Verification & Games:

@RightMeow Discord tried to roll out user age verification by ID or facial photo in the US and were met with massive backlash

@Prototart said in Age Verification & Games:

They haven’t asked for mine bc my account’s so old, but I’m 100% out if they ever do. I don’t even trust them enough for to pay for Nitro, no way am I giving them my ID.

I’m not even talking about Discord’s age verification. I’m talking about RP servers on Discord being like ‘verify your age by sending us your ID’. I’m talking about users feeling like they need to do it.

ETA: I need to clarify. This is on top of Discord’s systemic age verification. This is an additional layer of USERS asking OTHER USERS in SHARED SERVERS to send them their ID.

Guys, do you know that if you want to RP on discord, people want to send you a picture of your GOVERNMENT ID?

It made me think about our community, age verification, age verification attempts of yesteryear. I feel like at a certain point I stopped saying all players should be 18 or older because I just assumed that anyone who showed up would be.

Do people still try to verify player ages? What do you do?

Forked

Forked by request

Now, questions for us:

The largest sentiment gap is by preferred game style – MUD fans average 3.53 while MUSH fans average 2.85 (49.2% vs 19.5% happy) (Table 10, Figure 10).

Why so unhappy, fam?

Thank you for doing this! It was fascinating.

I’m curious: you highlighted some areas the MUSH / RPI / MUD community varied. How strongly did you feel that difference in the data?

Also noted that you aligned MUSH and RPI results more than I expected. I’ve tend to think of RPI as a type of MUD. Do you find that RPI aligns more with MUSH or is it very much its own thing?

I’m the fucking armchair general. The armchair quarterback. I’m on r/BMD building my fantasy RP league. I’m in the office pool for March MUDness.

I’m out of metaphors.

@voiceinthevoid said in Wikibara’s allegations:

@Kestrel

– I appreciate Tek’s input in changing the name.

It’s Tez.

Just – to be clear. You’re fine. Just want everyone to know who I am, which is Tez, with a z.

Glad you guys had a good conversation.

@Kestrel said in Antisemitism allegedly:

Maybe it also really was an honest mistake to have created a whole new thread, and the intention was to reply directly to the comments in context. But I really wish this board didn’t now have a whole thread titled “Antisemitism Allegedly” about how, allegedly, allegations of antisemitism cannot be trusted. Did this need to be a topic here?

It’s possible to rename threads. V, I’d consider it. Person to person, player to player. Not mod voice.

@Faraday said in "My Guy Syndrome":

@Roz said in "My Guy Syndrome":

we’re not talking about TTRPGs, though; we’re talking about MU*s. they may take systems from TTRPGs, stats and dice and such, but the social structure of how players have to persistently interact is entirely different from a tabletop experience.

Yes, I realize MUs are not TTRPGS (obviously). I said it was because of the TTRPG influence, which I believe came over along with the “stats and dice and such”.

Seriously - have you seen “yes-and/no-but” as a commonplace principle in your MUSHing experience? Because I haven’t, even on games with a cooperative focus.

Yes, absolutely, to such a degree your question baffles me so I ask:

What do you think this looks like in practice?

@Roz brb digging up the code that does that and making it truncate at one