I regret this thread so much

How do I delete my life choices

@Kestrel I was honestly just trying to make a thread and hear about what kind of game Haven was. It sounds bananas. I think that the shit that Jumpscare described is absolutely bonkers. I hope I made that clear! I thought it was so absurd that it didn’t need clarification, but I realize that things have gotten a bit muddied.

I don’t agree with some of the folk in this thread. Pure kink games kind of stick out like a sore thumb in this forum, and it feels like Haven was a pure kink game.

To be crystal clear, it’s fucked up. The SA button is fucked up, the coded sexism, anything with kids, christ, apparently that was also against the rules at Haven? I’m not sure, I didn’t look too hard at that thread. I think even Shang doesn’t allow the underage stuff? So it seems we as a community decide it was a no-go!

It’s fucked and it sucks! I can’t speak for anyone else. Genuinely sorry if I wasn’t clear.

@bear_necessities That sucks too! It all sux! BOO HAVEN

I thought we were just dunking on the people that coded a system where you lose attractiveness points if you EAT TOO FAST and lose points for fucking someone unattractive but it’s ONLY IF THEY ARE A WOMENS. That’s fuckin’ nuts!! Here we are as a community dunking on it!! WHAT THE HECK

I want everyone’s opinion of what counts as gritty realism GO

@Wizz Yeah there’s like, also the entire situation of Oh hey, we’re also RPing with strangers in most cases when it comes to MUs. And who knows what these wacky kids will get up to.

So unfortunately I do think that kind of by nature of having systems in your game that allow SA, it’s going to attract people that want to engage with it, for better or worse.

And history has shown that it’s generally for the worse.

As a gamerunner, if you’re good with dealing with predators, rad. We may lose a little gritty realism or impact, sure, but man, the idea of dealing with these folk ooc… I’d fkn die.

@Tez Happening to a PC vs the mere concept existing in the world is important here, which do you mean?

@Jumpscare said:

There were also point gains for female characters putting on makeup, point losses for females eating too fast, and point losses to male characters for “banging an uggo.”

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@bear_necessities Are you really going to try to bonk Jumpscare on the head for giving us this incredible information?

I generally agree with @third-eye in that I think, depending on the general setting, it enriches my immersion. People having families, children, parents… I like it the same way I like when there’s a broad age range, where you have PCs that are grandpa age, down to early 20s and everything in between. It’s a nice splash of diversity.

Even if you have a full PC cast of sexy 20-somethings, there can at least be a setting that feels a little more real.

I was told by @sab that you could choose to do a coded PULL OUT method after TS. This is amazing, I’m so sad the thread is gone.

Guys what the HELL happened on this haven game and is this why you’re all vaguely fucked up regarding RP? I’m told there was a huge documented thread about this elsewhere but now it’s lost to the ether forever.

This convo is going to end up settling on “This kind of RP is only good when it’s actually good, and not bad”.

@Noraaa If you want to defend being willing to RP with, among, and around players using LLM, put up your dukes

I realize all I do in this thread is just yell and be unproductive about shit. Sorry BMD I just get so fired up. If your game policy is “you can use a lil to tidy your grammar :)” you realize you will push away human writers more and more and more until there is nothing but LLMs RPing with LLMs and a human making some minor decision to drink from a glass or something.

I was just made aware that there are people out there that are like ‘who cares I’d rather read chatgpt vomit than one liner bar RP’ and I’m going to fucking crash out again. YOU ARE INSANE??? GO RP WITH AN LLM? WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING ON A GAME AT ALLLLLLLLLL AAAAAAAAAAAA what the FUCK is the human even providing at that point!?

You can be the star of your own fucked up show with chatbots if you don’t actually care about the other human involved! SOMEONE FITE ME

I guess it would eliminate any kind of game labeling preface. Like “what do you expect we’re a PVP game” or “of course we allow conflict in our PVE game!”

Presuming PVP and PVE both have character versus character in some fashion, even if the characters aren’t always played by staff.

I have the world’s worst, pickiest (NEEDLESSLY/USELESSLY PICKIEST) art director above me AAAAAAA