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MU Peeves Thread
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@sao The intention of the rule is about lying about who you are to try and get close with and interact closely with people who don’t want to interact with you, a la DownWithOPP. I was not doing that. I was playing with new players to help them get accustomed to the grid. I was playing with my friends who had apped there.
On Shattered, I was specifically avoiding people who I knew didn’t want anything to do with me. I was not buddying up to them. I joined to play with my own friend circle who is playing there.
If I had been trying to get in with KB and their crew or sidle up to someone else who doesn’t like me, that would be a different story.
I am/was tek. If this means something to you, do as you see fit with this knowledge.
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@Bessarion Real advice: Stop replying at this point.
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@KarmaBum I will. I just wanted to make clear that my intentions are good and that I don’t have anything to hide, and clarify this misunderstanding of my rule and how I perceived the tenor of my own actions. I was also afraid that if someone asks me a direct question and I don’t answer, I would start being accused of more duplicity and I was having a hard time navigating how to handle that.
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@Bessarion said in MU Peeves Thread:
I did it because I was afraid. I did it because I am trying to keep my cortisol levels down because I’m in the middle of fertility treatments and I selfishly didn’t want to have this conversation.
So whatever, I’ll say something, because I’m going to tell you to stop at this point. Because you’re getting wound up. And I’m telling you, stop.
When you apologized to me, I forgave you. I considered the matter closed. But I didn’t forget, decided it would be easier to keep my distance and be polite, and that’s the thing. I never held animosity, but trusting was a bit harder, I’ll admit that.
But also? The only person you’re beholden to is yourself. You’re not responsible for how I choose to feel after it. It’s on me to change my opinion. That’s it. Full stop. You don’t owe anyone anything. You apologized, now you just have to live up to that, so at this point the only person you’re letting down is you. End of discussion. Don’t do better because you want to make amends, the amends will happen because you did indeed try to be better.
And if those people still can’t or won’t get over that? Fuck’em. Seriously, they’re going to think whatever they’re going to think and there’s no point or use in trying to do otherwise. You’re wasting both yours and their time, sad as it might seem, but there are more productive ways to apply your time, like your game, or simply focusing on you. It’s a hard thing to remember that not everyone is going to like each other in a hobby. That’s just the way it is. Not everyone here likes me, and I don’t lose sleep over it.
And that goes for anyone with a ‘rep’. You’re not here to appease everyone. You do what you can to be fair, but yeah, we’re going to screw up, and there isn’t not a single person on this forum who hasn’t been an absolute shitheel to someone at some point. You can either be better and the situation will eventually just be set aside, or people will hold a grudge for whatever reason, justified reasons or not. But again, you’re not beholden to that.
Was it a mistake to hide yourself again? Yeah, probably it was. I really hope you’re honest in trying to improve and better yourself. I really sincerely do. I hope you can shove this in my face at a later date and I’ll eat crow on it.
Be better, but be better for yourself. Anyone who doesn’t like that? Fuck’em.
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@Bessarion you’re being disingenuous and it is bothering me that you keep @ting KB when I was the one who called you out, I am the one on Shattered, and I am the one who doesn’t want anything to do with you.
Good luck with your game. I hope you can prove everyone wrong. This isn’t a great start to it.
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@bear_necessities to be fair, aren’t you and @KarmaBum basically the same person just like @tsar and @Snackness?
let it be a challenge to you
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@sao We’re married with 12 children but also the same person so yes this is pretty accurate
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@bear_necessities Honestly? I get the two of you mixed up in my head. Don’t attribute to malice what is best attributed to me being an idiot. And I don’t want anything to do with you, either.
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@bear_necessities is my sock-puppet
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@KarmaBum @bear_necessities One of my favorite running jokes on early GH was how you guys had the exact same schedule and would almost always log on at the same time, despite being far away from one another.
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@KarmaBum dammit YOU are the sock puppet not me, I am a bear in a bat suit.
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@Pyrephox It was funny TO YOU GUYS.
We were over here like “omg I think I lived like a mile away from there but two years earlier”
and “lol that was also my dog’s name how weird”
and eventually “holy fuck, how do our children who were born in different states still have the same furniture - AND IT’S NOT LIKE FROM A CHAIN-STORE, it’s random furniture that I got from a furniture store that I had never been to ever before in my life”
and now finally it’s fine, someone else also has my life, we can’t all be originals
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@KarmaBum Now I feel like if we ever saw a photo of you two, it’d be like…ALMOST the same photo, but with enough unsettling details different that it just wigs the viewer out.
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@Pyrephox I have bought us matching t-shirts in the past but my hair is much darker!!!
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@Pyrephox see why i’m all into this mandela effect? lived experience, my friend.
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@sao said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Bessarion If all of this is sincere, and a mistake, etc – why do you have a rule on your game against doing this exact thing that you appear to be doing?
This surprised me not at all. This behavior is gross. Literally had to ban someone from Arx for doing this same exact shit. I support fresh starts but it’s not a fresh start if you go right back to doing this shit that ruined your reputation in the first damned place.
Also, it’s different between coming back as a player on the down low and coming back as a game runner. I don’t think you needed to announce your return as a player as long as you are making every effort to avoid people that you absolutely know don’t want anything to do with you. As a game runner, in order to foster trust, transparency is required to some degree. Hiding who you are isn’t transparent and this was always going to lead to your players feeling deceived because it was more important to you to have a fresh start than for you to care that people you hurt deserve to know who they are dealing with.
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Peeve. I’m feeling left behind by this hobby. I’m discouraged that it feels like in order to play on any of the games where my friends play, I’d have to compromise my comfort and place my trust in people who… I haven’t experienced being all that cool. And I think I feel it even more because for a minute, I had a relatively active little rp bubble before folks moved on to the next thing.
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@helvetica Aw man, this is a sucky feeling. I’m sorry.
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I feel left behind in the games on a level that I just can’t seem to find the time or the people to RP with. I use to have a whole circle, so I get it.
Also please don’t compromise your comfort or trust. It has never led a person to great things. Maybe you could Discord RP? I hear people do that. Then you don’t have to set up a MU* and it can be just people you trust.
I hope you feel more interested and invested.
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@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:
@KarmaBum dammit YOU are the sock puppet not me, I am a bear in a bat suit.
@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:
@KarmaBum Now I feel like if we ever saw a photo of you two, it’d be like…ALMOST the same photo, but with enough unsettling details different that it just wigs the viewer out.
I had to throw this mental image into DALL-E to see how faithfully it’d recreate it. Spoilered for people who gets disturbed by AI imagery.
Edit: That wasn’t the image I meant to pick out but it works all the same. Your bond is unbreakable.
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