Games we want, but will almost certainly never have

Roadspike

@helvetica I’ve poked at mechs vs mechs and mechs vs kaiju combat on FS3, and it can definitely work. But changing types (ie, hitlocation charts) during combat would be very difficult.

I would still love to do a Pacific Rim-style mechs vs kaiju game.

Jax

@Roadspike I would love a Battletech game. I missed out on the CBT simulator era.

Tat

@Roadspike Not if you have a command to just… change the type on the fly. combat/type, one might call it. If one had ever done such a thing.

Faraday

@Tat I don’t think that would work very well for vehicles - not without a bunch of extra work anyway. That’s why there’s no built-in command to do that.

@Jax Doing generic Mech v Mech combat isn’t hard in FS3. They’re just vehicles. You only run into trouble when you’re trying to model a pre-existing system. Battletech, for instance, has rules for heat, critical hits, finite ammo (not just clip-based), etc. - none of which are modeled in FS3. So you either get a very shallow approximation of Battletech, or you have a metric ton of additional custom code needed (at which point you should probably just make your own BTech specific combat system.)

Tat

@Faraday Yeah, I’ve never tried it with vehicles, I do think that’d complicate matters.

Jennkryst

Re: Mechs in general - Eldritch Automata sure looks neat and has ways to incorporate literally all of the mech tropes. Like there is even a ‘get in the fucking robot, Shinji’ thing. Where it is beep-boop lever controls, a battletech style brainscan helmet, or a G-Gundam/Exalted Warstrider style suit you wear to control the thing, all interface methods are possible.

Lancer is also neat.

Battletech Specific - BTMux is still around, kind of. There is a discord and they boot up the game for simpods, it’s no longer a week-long thing where people login whenever to do their thing, which is a shame. A proper Battletech Lords & Ladies game would be hilarious, dibs on a mischievous wizard character (Comstar Agent)

Faraday

@Tat said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have:

@Faraday Yeah, I’ve never tried it with vehicles, I do think that’d complicate matters.

Yeah, switching between types for regular characters is pretty straightforward. It mostly just switches their weapons/armor. But the vehicle is a separate entity with its own damage and stats. Theoretically you can change the vehicle’s type too, but then it gets a bit weird if it’s in Plane form and the damage list is like “Incapacitated wound to Right Arm”
Unrelated side note: changing combatant types also gets messed up if you try to go from Observer to regular combatant or vice-versa.

MisterBoring

All this talk about Battletech and Mech-based MUs, I’m surprised an enterprising coder hasn’t attempted to link a MU to MegaMek.

Jennkryst

@MisterBoring who needs megamek when you have THUD

Jumpscare

A solarpunk game where we use supernatural powers to take down corporations, heal the earth, and rebuild communities.

Or I’ll even compromise and ask for a cyberpunk game that doesn’t close within 3 months.

Jennkryst

@Jumpscare I have, at one point, looked intensely at the Genesys code for Ares, and bought different non-Star Wars Genesys books, including the Android: Shadow of the Beanstalk setting book.

Jumpscare

@Jennkryst The thing is, I’m not too big on combat. I like the more cerebral, emotional and espionage aspects of those settings, rather than becoming BeefHack McGunHands.

KarmaBum

@KarmaBum said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have and probably in every other iteration of this subject that’s ever been mentioned because KB still wants to play cowboys and yet you may notice that KB has never opened a cowboy MUSH despite several games and that is because KB wants to play cowboys on someone else’s game not my own for a change so will someone please just do this already???:

Cowboys (vs werewolves)

A Wild Imaginary West (clicky) game would also be acceptable.

bear_necessities

@KarmaBum said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have:

@KarmaBum said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have and probably in every other iteration of this subject that’s ever been mentioned because KB still wants to play cowboys and yet you may notice that KB has never opened a cowboy MUSH despite several games and that is because KB wants to play cowboys on someone else’s game not my own for a change so will someone please just do this already???:

Cowboys (vs werewolves)

A Wild Imaginary West (clicky) game would also be acceptable.

We are not the same person but I want this too thanks

Raistlin

A Wild West(or even a Weird West) game is in the category of games I’m a little shocked don’t exist. I’m really shocked there aren’t more games set in the Old West(Wild or otherwise), Game of Thrones universe, or the age of piracy.

Pavel

@Raistlin said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have:

Game of Thrones universe

There are a pair of really annoying reasons for this one, at least previously.

MisterBoring

@Raistlin said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have:

Game of Thrones universe

Did Blood of Dragons close? I’ve never played it myself, but I’ve heard about it many times, as recent as last November.

Raistlin

@MisterBoring I’m not sure if it closed or not. I found it quite intimidating when I tried to apply there a while ago. It was a lot. And I didn’t necessarily mean that there are no games with those themes; I’m just shocked there aren’t more. Especially Game of Thrones. Lords and Ladies with an established world that people seem to love and enjoy? I’d think there’d be 3 or 4 of them, to be honest.

Raistlin

What about a game that took some of these more “niche” themes and put them onto one game? Like, it would have “eras” that players could make characters for. Wild West, Piracy, and Victorian, for example. Could even make them all “horror” based with WoD style or something.

My first impulse is that this might just split the player base. My hope, however, is that it might inspire someone who came there to play in the wild west era to make a pirate or victorian age character.

Pavel

@Raistlin said in Games we want, but will almost certainly never have:

Especially Game of Thrones.

Some time ago, there were a pair of SuperFans (who did some legitimate work with GRR Martin, to be fair to them) who ran a Game of Thrones game. I can’t recall its name, so it may well have been spoken about already. They would regularly berate others who made Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire games, to the point where one could characterise it as bullying and harassment.

That in combination with the swift evacuation of Game of Thrones from the public consciousness after that disastrous final season is probably why we don’t see many, if any, games from that universe.