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          Life got busy, so here is a very belated reply.

          Anyways, it may be something different. It was sort of like the SCP stuff that’s popular today. The most prominent one that I remember was a wiki, and you could go to a page and edit it, retconning things, continuing the scene by writing new material, whatever. There were some rules of engagement about how much you could edit in a day, what sorts of things you could do, etc. I think some of it ended up on An Archive of Our Own at one point.

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          • JumpscareJ
            Jumpscare @MisterBoring
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            @MisterBoring said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

            I’ve thought up a new pacing style:

            Tedium game pacing. The MU will be connected to a generic incremental idle game (like Cookie Clicker), and each player will be given a number of pose tokens. Each pose will cost a number of tokens based on length, and if you run out of tokens, you must play the idle game to generate more tokens, which can also be spent to make the idle game work faster. Scenes will progress at a speed decided by the various players progression in the idle game generating the tokens.

            Ah, Gemstone IV, where people would abruptly leave the scene when their RPXP ran out.

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            • bear_necessitiesB
              bear_necessities @Jumpscare
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              @Jumpscare said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

              Ah, Gemstone IV, where people would abruptly leave the scene when their RPXP ran out.

              Was that the one on AOL along with Modeus Operandi that went pay-to-play? Modeus Operandi was my first game, I miss it 😞

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              • RucketR
                Rucket @MisterBoring
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                @MisterBoring said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                I’ve thought up a new pacing style:

                Tedium game pacing. The MU will be connected to a generic incremental idle game (like Cookie Clicker), and each player will be given a number of pose tokens. Each pose will cost a number of tokens based on length, and if you run out of tokens, you must play the idle game to generate more tokens, which can also be spent to make the idle game work faster. Scenes will progress at a speed decided by the various players progression in the idle game generating the tokens.

                Now I’m imagining TS scenes being on hold for days while people play cookie clicker to be able to put out their next pose.

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                  Superbia
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                  Aegis Company runner here, just want to belatedly chime in to say our scenes, especially events, do skew live. Async certainly happens but it’s generally reserved for interpersonal RP.

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                  • JumpscareJ
                    Jumpscare @bear_necessities
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                    @bear_necessities said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                    @Jumpscare said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                    Ah, Gemstone IV, where people would abruptly leave the scene when their RPXP ran out.

                    Was that the one on AOL along with Modeus Operandi that went pay-to-play? Modeus Operandi was my first game, I miss it 😞

                    I’m afraid I don’t know. A few years ago, a friend who is into MUDs told me to check it out for inspiration. It was so very strange and not in a fun way, haha.

                    Imagine you’re sitting down to dinner at a restaurant and having a great conversation with someone. You’re engaged and chatting for a good 30 minutes. But then he finishes his meal, says, “My time is up,” and immediately leaves in the middle of the discussion. Then someone else comes in, gets a meal, sits down in front of you, and expects you to start a new conversation from the beginning.

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                    • KarmaBumK
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                      @Superbia said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                      Aegis Company runner here, just want to belatedly chime in to say our scenes, especially events, do skew live.

                      Please note that this isn’t a value judgment. I personally don’t care about the live/async split. But I’m a data analyst, and confirmation bias is one of my biggest peeves. So just to give you a very small sample set:

                      As of 3/18 -
                      Scenes already shared with the dates posted - 9 live

                      • 3/17 - 2 scenes
                      • 3/16 - 0 scenes
                      • 3/15 - 4 scenes
                      • 3/14 - 3 scenes

                      Scenes started yesterday+ with those dates - 12 async

                      • 3/17 - 7
                      • 3/16 - 0
                      • 3/15 - 2
                      • 3/14 - 3

                      Looking at those four days, 43%* of your scenes are live.

                      *Ares doesn’t have a publicly available ‘scene shared date’, so I’m assuming that scenes posted on those days were also played those days (credit for “live” scenes).

                      Just for the sake of conversation, the other two games mentioned as having a live component - Empty Night and Keys - have even less, with no scenes posted on 3/16 or 3/17 for either game. So your game’s still ahead of the curve. 🙂

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                      • FaradayF
                        Faraday @KarmaBum
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                        @KarmaBum said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                        *Ares doesn’t have a publicly available ‘scene shared date’, so I’m assuming that scenes posted on those days were also played those days (credit for “live” scenes).

                        To really do a data analysis you’d have to see scenes played, which is not directly connected to scenes posted, and have a way to tell whether those scenes were truly live or async (which may not always correspond to the option the person picked when they created the scene). Ares just doesn’t provide that data in form that you can easily query after the fact.

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                        • MisterBoringM
                          MisterBoring @Faraday
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                          @Faraday said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                          Ares just doesn’t provide that data in form that you can easily query after the fact.

                          I’d honestly be curious as to how many staff-folks try and track metrics for their games, and what, if any, tools they use to do so.

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                          • Third EyeT
                            Third Eye @MisterBoring
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                            @MisterBoring said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                            I’d honestly be curious as to how many staff-folks try and track metrics for their games, and what, if any, tools they use to do so.

                            On Shattered I tried to pay attention to it, it’s one of the things I find useful about having all the scenes visible, but it defaults to ‘feels’ and ‘how easy is it personally to get X kind of RP’, we didn’t collect hard numbers even insofar as we could’ve manually. All events were live unless it was a player doing some personal thing themselves, though, that was just how we did things.

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                            • FaradayF
                              Faraday @MisterBoring
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                              @MisterBoring said in RP Safari - Pacing Styles:

                              I’d honestly be curious as to how many staff-folks try and track metrics for their games, and what, if any, tools they use to do so.

                              Ares has player activity metrics baked in, which you can see on any AresCentral game page.

                              You could also do some db-level queries to figure out scenes started per day easily enough.

                              Looking at the details of those scenes (private vs public, on-grid vs off-grid, scene pacing) is more problematic because those things can be edited, and for pacing may reflect a default value rather than an actual depiction of reality. So at that point I think it’s down to vibes.

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