MU* Wishlists

Livia

I more mean, everyone is Very Invested in Brujah not being a bloodline of the Gangrel Clan and etc and so on. For more examples, see all the arguments from when oWoD was taken out behind the chemical shed and shot / when nWoD first came out.

It’s not Brujah as a bloodline it’s Bruja, it’s different darnit! Grumble grumble.

But yeah I know. They did kinda cook themselves a little bit in trying to migrate a fanbase by keeping some things named the same like Ventrue, Gangrel, Toreador bloodline etc.

Jennkryst

@Livia said in MU* Wishlists:

some things named the same like Ventrue, Gangrel, Toreador bloodline etc.

I forget who told me, but apparently, they also didn’t originally mean for Forsaken to be as heavily spirit-centric like Apocalypse, and also randomly decided to make the anti-yiffing rules even worse.

At least one of which is solved entirely by CoD, so huzzah!

(none of this stops the haters from hating, but shrug

Rucket

@Purplelamia said in MU* Wishlists:

I would like to see a Lords & Ladies game like Castle D’Image, or Crossroads, where it’s accessible, engaged players and staff, friendly but without having to learn a slew of backplot and systems like Arx, which I found kind of overwhelming. Evennia is a very complex system, with a lot going on.

Perhaps it was also back when I first played, but it was a time when I was naive and didn’t know everyone’s drama, though I was too young and dumb not to get swept up in it. I’d love to avoid that for a second round.

Maybe they are around though, and I just don’t knwo where to look.

I kind of get what you’re saying but I feel I should ask what do you mean by “learn a slew of backplot”? I think fantasy/L&L helps when there’s some level of depth to the setting, or do you mean the weight of years of history that Arx had?

Jennkryst

@Rucket Could be ‘uncover the secret history’, could be ‘never get a plot run because your timezone doesn’t line up with any STs authorized to run the plot’. I’d say 50/50?

Jennkryst

@Purplelamia said in MU* Wishlists:

Lords & Ladies game

The Scorpion book for the FFG L5R game is set to drop soon-ish, somebody do the thing!

junipersky

I had a dream that @RightMeow and @tsar and I all joined a game.

It was like a mystery sandbox. We all created characters. @tsar was the male hero, @RightMeow was the desperately tragic heroine, and I was playing a cop who never rose above basic level cop. We ended up buddy-copping to solve a murder the rest od rhe city decided to pretend didn’t exist.

And I was sad it didn’t actually exist.

RightMeow

@junipersky

I’d play that game. I just hope to write another ‘series’ that blows up all over the grid because I got cold and your grumpy char sent me a cloak. Good times.

Also, side note. Awwwww you included me in your dreamscape. I’m undeserving of that, but I appreciate it.

Pavel

I wish my dreams were like that. Mine always involve having to fight entropy with my third-form science teacher Mr. Wilson.

junipersky

@RightMeow lol

Ominous

I rarely remember my dreams. Most of the ones I do remember are work dreams. I miss having the vivid, lucid dreams of my late teens and twenties.

MisterBoring

The most recent dream I can remember is: A total stranger abandoned me at a Best Buy because I wouldn’t help them steal car stereo equipment from the store, and so I just hung out in the store until it got dark so I could go home without melting in the heat.

Thionoxial

My wishlist:

A VTM game set somewhere interesting. I’ve been working on a setting/ruleset called ‘Olympus Mons by Night’ for >12 years now. I’m too old to run a mush, no freetime, but I’d love to see something interesting. And not multisphere. That NEVER works.
Scifi space opera where I can be a blue/green/purple skinned alien girl and do mad science or psychic bullshit.
I’d like to see a REGULAR FUCKING TABLETOP FANTASY GAME IN A REGULAR CITY, based not around tabletop stuff but like - game of thrones style. Not low magic. More like…what if BG3 was a mush? Or Spelljammer? None of you will know what Spelljammer is, I’m old.
A technocracy game where players are ONLY technocrats, and the real life world is so messed up because the Traditions took over behind the scenes and are spreading anti-vaxx stuff/anti-science stuff/chaos to try and wear down the Consensus, so your kinda like scrappy x-com agents fighting against the anti-science crusaders of the Hemetic Order.

Thionoxial

or, for that matter, an actual X-Com mush. But VINTAGE.

Like you X-com call of cthulhu bullshit while pretending to be ordinary people in 1940s noir chicago or whatever.

Jennkryst

@Thionoxial said:

My wishlist:

A VTM game set somewhere interesting. I’ve been working on a setting/ruleset called ‘Olympus Mons by Night’ for >12 years now. I’m too old to run a mush, no freetime, but I’d love to see something interesting. And not multisphere. That NEVER works.

Multi-sphere works, you just have to scratch off the ‘everyone hates everyone else’ badness.

Scifi space opera where I can be a blue/green/purple skinned alien girl and do mad science or psychic bullshit.

There is a new Star Wars game, and another in the works, but might not count.

I’d like to see a REGULAR FUCKING TABLETOP FANTASY GAME IN A REGULAR CITY, based not around tabletop stuff but like - game of thrones style. Not low magic. More like…what if BG3 was a mush? Or Spelljammer? None of you will know what Spelljammer is, I’m old.

I’ve pitched Spelljammer a few times, everyone in the hobby is old. Okay, most people in the hobby are old. Definitely old enough to know about it because the terrible 5e version dropped after COVID, plus the Spelljammer ship that showed up in BG3.

… the problem is going to always be what ruleset. D&D 4e is the only truly balanced version of D&D, and that balance comes with a cost (which is most people hate it).

A technocracy game where players are ONLY technocrats, and the real life world is so messed up because the Traditions took over behind the scenes and are spreading anti-vaxx stuff/anti-science stuff/chaos to try and wear down the Consensus, so your kinda like scrappy x-com agents fighting against the anti-science crusaders of the Hemetic Order.

While I agree that everyone overlooks the bad side of the Traditions, there’s plenty of bad sides of the Technocracy there to make everyone being on thier side a bit… tricksy.

Thionoxial

@Jennkryst

I have never seen multitheme on an oWOD mush really enhance the game. It can work on say…nWOD, but not on oWOD.

Mages in particular just don’t work well with other themes. The problem is usually mage players. And there’s no…reason? to have vampires and garou together.

These games almost always work better as single-sphere games focused on that sphere. Again, for oWOD.

nWOD works well multi-sphere, works GREAT multi sphere, tbh. Its a much better game for a MUSH, imo, though I personally prefer the theme of oWOD.

That’s just my opinion.

You are correct about ‘what ruleset’ regarding dnd, and also why people (including myself) hate 4e. I don’t know what the answer to that would be.

Regarding Star Wars:

I’ve played SW games for 20 years and I’m a bit burnt out on it

Jennkryst

@Thionoxial said:

@Jennkryst

I have never seen multitheme on an oWOD mush really enhance the game. It can work on say…nWOD, but not on oWOD.

Mages in particular just don’t work well with other themes. The problem is usually mage players. And there’s no…reason? to have vampires and garou together.

These games almost always work better as single-sphere games focused on that sphere. Again, for oWOD.

This is part of the ‘scratch off the inherent every sphere hating each other’ I was talking about. Almost every sphere has mention somewhere in one of their books where ‘on the surface, they hate each other. Here are a bunch of ideas for how they actually work together behind the scenes’.

You are correct about ‘what ruleset’ regarding dnd, and also why people (including myself) hate 4e. I don’t know what the answer to that would be.

Theoretically copy/paste D&D lore onto non-D&D rules. Success will vary.

Regarding Star Wars:

I’ve played SW games for 20 years and I’m a bit burnt out on it

Fair.

Ominous

@Thionoxial said:

or, for that matter, an actual X-Com mush. But VINTAGE.

Like you X-com call of cthulhu bullshit while pretending to be ordinary people in 1940s noir chicago or whatever.

I got a few likes to the below similar ideas, so there is at least a modicum of interest amongst this crowd.

Ominous said:

A setting in the X-Files, Delta Green, SCP, Control, Triangle Agency, etc. vein. You could even include World of Darkness stuff, but the setting would mostly from the viewpoints of a government agency of “Hunters” and the occasional Mage, Vampire, Werewolf, whatever that decided to work with the agency. The server is mostly PVE as PCs work together on missions they take, but the server could also can go the Paranoia TTRPG route by having some NPCs and PCs belong to secret societies, have ulterior motives, be given contrary secret missions from the Directorate, etc. to keep people a little uneasy and wary. Operations could be investigations into weird shit, neutralization of weird shit (more tactics and combat oriented), covert ops (cause weird shit to happen so we get a funding increase), etc.

Ominous said:

@somasatori said in Missed Settings:

@bear_necessities said in Missed Settings:
Take the guiding principles behind a West Marches game for this: make the standard town area be your home base where people get refueled and are generally safe. The plots and scenes run by GMs/Keepers/player-STs-if-you-allow-PrPs are where the danger comes in. All of the in-town stuff is handled by players and any player ST reps you have, the only staff involvement in plot stuff happens when you assemble investigatory teams to search out the Mythos lore. You wouldn’t be running a town MUSH, the players would just be doing their social RP and whatnot while you occasionally (weekly or semi-weekly basis) come in to run mythos stories.

This is what I was going to say. In my vision of the game, the base the agents are stationed at is like Los Alamos for the Manhattan Project, Groom Lake (Area 51), or something. The base is the town and has facsimiles (bars, restaurants, a theater, etc. staffed by soldiers or their family members) and no one leaves except for missions, until they and their family, if any, are “decommissioned”. Mages, vampires, werewolves, etc. can’t be decommissioned; well, they can, but the agency uses the sun, silver bullets, etc. instead, which probably adds to the uneasiness people have around their supernatural allies. Just how allied are they, when there is no opt out option?

Thionoxial

@Ominous Someone did something like this once with uh, UFOs? it lasted something like LITERALLY TWO DAYS AFTER OPENING BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCED IT WAS CLOSING

it was crazy

I do feel though that like, a big major city works better than a remote military base, for the same reason everyone always leaves the base on Stargate: SG1, because you need other things going on? Like I think i’ve seen the ‘remote town’ thing before.

It does help with an excuse to always run into each other. It does. It’s a solid base.

I do think its been done a LOT though, and would miss out on 'I’m not with you, but since this is set in 1940s Chicago / Pittsburgh in the 80s / modern NYC / whatever, my character is a mobster/ordinary person who keeps stumbling into this stuff, and plots where things get ‘into the wild’.

Ominous

@Thionoxial I am concerned that the side plots that can happen in a larger central hub might distract from the missions. I’m imaging several missions going on at the same time, and missions being multi-scene, multi-RL day affairs.

bear_necessities

Sooooo why isn’t there a Dungeon Crawler Carl MUSH yet?