Bannings
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I mean, I get it, irrefutable evidence is a big claim, and this is the guy who argued you can’t hear things over the internet, but this is where he went first, in the middle of a dozen people who actually played on Arx remarking about the dude setting off creep meters. Other folks expressed interest in the details, because that’s natural, but derp’s the only one who immediately went to ‘but what if it’s fake’ about a banning on a game he doesn’t play and a situation he knew nothing about.
When all t his started with Gany, my initial reaction was ‘lawyers should never be staff’. I’ve since expanded that to judges, politicians, and maybe cops.
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I mean, I get it, irrefutable evidence is a big claim, and this is the guy who argued you can’t hear things over the internet, but this is where he went first, in the middle of a dozen people who actually played on Arx remarking about the dude setting off creep meters. Other folks expressed interest in the details, because that’s natural, but derp’s the only one who immediately went to ‘but what if it’s fake’ about a banning on a game he doesn’t play and a situation he knew nothing about.
When all t his started with Gany, my initial reaction was ‘lawyers should never be staff’. I’ve since expanded that to judges, politicians, and maybe cops.
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It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.
Derp should have done the right thing and stepped aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.
Ganymede should have done the right thing and asked him to step aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.
The misplaced trust in Ganymede over the years compiled by the smug crowing imagined in the background by that tiresome manchild…
It still stings.
So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.
They won’t.
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@TNP not to #notalllawyers, but SOME of us think a court of law is the worst possible analogy for a hobby where no rights are at stake, only privileges.
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So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.
honestly, i think i need to force myself out of it now. i’ve said my peace. as derp says, they have the receipts. anyone can look at anything i posted and decide how they feel they wish to characterize it.
reading over and over broad strokes that mischaracterize me, i feel, just makes me upset each time and is bad for my mental health. And my BPD, as i once explained on MSB, but i do need to take responsibility for my own mental health.
i’m not judging anyone here, obvs! or there. idc. i am just explaining why i am suddenly going to stop posting in this thread or upvoting people. take care, guys!
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@Meg No judgment inferred, or offered. Do what you gotta do for your brainmeat. You have our full support.
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@KarmaBum you put it into words. Well done, I couldn’t.
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Since Derp and Ghost keep bringing it up, I’ll repeat a point I’ve made before:
People are going to keep talking about the community being hijacked, because at the end of the day, before any of this happened, any of YOU who feel the need to talk about bullies being mean - YOU could have made your own board, and made it however you wanted.
Instead, you decided to change the rules of the board we were all on and throw anyone who disagreed out. Which is the root of it all. And you know it. Because you keep bringing up how we went somewhere else and made the rules we wanted.
And it’s pretty fucked up how you keep rewriting history to justify the decision.
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It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.
This is the only part that genuinely bothers me about The State of MSB now, especially given Gany’s reluctance to give an uninvolved party copies of it to even archive, but the house is hers now and she’ll do with it what she will.
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[derp on breccan, take two:]
OK, let me add more than moral disgust.
‘There’s no such thing as irrefutable evidence,’ says a guy who expects irrefutable evidence, in order for the banning, ostracisation, or public naming and shaming of a predator to be considered valid.
So in other words, it’s never valid. Why not just say that?
Why not just admit you’re setting women up for a no-win scenario, the outcome of which — or preferably prior conclusion of — should be for them to just shut up.
Fuck you, Derp, profoundly, from the bottom of my soul. I actually hadn’t seen this stuff before and was aware of only the most recent reasons why people quite rightly call you a misogynist.
I don’t care if you’re pro-choice and voted for Hillary Clinton; this is less than the absolute bare minimum of allyship.
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You know, I had no problem at all with Derp being an admin when Gany first made him one.
Never let is be said that I can’t admit when I’m wrong but Derp has proven to me that I was oh so very, very wrong. I was so very wrong it’s used up all my potential wrongness for the rest of the decade so at least I’m guaranteed to be right for the next 7.5 years.
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simplications if you’re reading this:
No hard feelings. I felt awful that you got banned. If I’d read what I wrote from the perspective you had, I would have wanted to scream at me too.
I didn’t really understand what I was getting involved in. I’m not gonna say y’all over here are nice, but you don’t seem like you have malice.
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@shit-piss-love Disney made (almost) every villain queer and Mean Girls is iconic.
So like… being catty and sometimes mean about a thing has been programmed into many people. Also, text does not convey tone, so there is another level of communication mixup.
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@shit-piss-love said in Bannings:
but you don’t seem like you have malice.
That’s only because we haven’t gotten into a rousing argument about pose order, social combat, or posing in past tense yet.
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@shit-piss-love said in Bannings:
but you don’t seem like you have malice.
[blah blah blah] or posing in past tense yet.
I hate you so much right now.
So much.
For even reminding me this is a thing people do/did.
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@shit-piss-love said in Bannings:
but you don’t seem like you have malice.
[blah blah blah] or posing in past tense yet.
I hated you so much
right nowthen.So much.
For even
remindingdoFixed that for you.
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social combat
Look, I am not a world class diplomat (evidenced by how you all simply REFUSE to upvote everything I post), but sometimes I play one online, and they should be able to roll their diplomacy dice and convince other people of things when I do not word good.
Jumping to the inevitable ‘but what if seduction rollz?’ argument, then you have been blessed with the ability to spread post coital gossip about how that creeper talked a good game, but didn’t realize he was actually having sex with your thigh, or whatever.
Edit to add - IF they were being a creeper about it. If you’re into the flirty combat of it all, then this social combat is a boon, go forth and have fun.
Perhaps while holding the tip of a sword to my chin, and making me look up a bit?
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I haven’t really had a stake in all of this, and mostly I’ve been following along for the hot goss, but this is the thing that’s so wild to me. This specific behavior of “you aren’t allowed to call Ghost a bully, but Ghost can call you a bully” truly boggles the mind.
In any case, if people just stop posting about this on MSB, it’ll probably slowly die off. Ghost and Derp will just quietly seethe and read this forum until someone tries to spark some kind of discussion they think is really, actually quite clever, or until Ghost can’t stand screaming into the void by themselves and rehashes this with some disingenuous post about toxicity or positivity.
