Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo

Wizz

@GF said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

I ask this seriously, not rhetorically: who cares one way or the other if the game fails? So what? Why should we prioritize the health of the game over the health of the people hurt by its staff and players?

This is the same dude who galloped in here to shill for a giant corporation with a cartoonishly evil plan, suggested our priority should be to think of all of those poor, poor statistically insignificant victims of false SA reports rather than the victims themselves, and described everything happening in this thread as “screaming into the void,” just to specifically call out some of his atrociously bad takes after the MSB split.

He’s been a mediocre toxic presence ever since WORA to my recollection, I honestly think he just comes over here to troll us, and I don’t suggest you ask him anything in seriousness.

KarmaBum

@Meg said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

i’m gonna take a shot for 64bitjedi showing up, but i am also going to call a bet and take a shot that he’s now gone.

I would never admit to playing a game that actually posted this.

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

A ban is possible for him, for everyone if they become an active burden upon the playerbase, and the game’s health.

I’d go back underground and pretend it wasn’t me. That is the coldest shit I’ve ever seen from a staffer.

“It’s fine, he’s not harassing anyone important right now.”

SpilledBeanz

@DarthSmegma said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

@Pavel Yeah, sure. And now on AoA only NEW players can be Mandalorians. No existing players can go grab some beskar armor and pestering everyone.

Except that’s not ENTIRELY true. Apparently the posted rule was bent recently to allow Colo Nell to convert despite being past the thirty day ‘new character’ limit listed in the rules.

Colo Nell is the IC boyfriend of a a Kora, and that Kora is one of the new staffers that was brought in alongside Hadrix. The rules are bent for insiders. Nobody else would have been allowed this, of course.

DarthSmegma

@SpilledBeanz Come join us at Manbro Wars: Age of Kora! New coded feature coming this Summer… EVERYONE ELSE STARTS THE GAME AS A SEX SLAVE!

Oh, and also there’s some vaguely Star Wars-like stuff too, if you’re into that.

Wizz

@KarmaBum

Seriously, though. I don’t think I have seen a more fucking weaselly response in…ever?

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

All sexual harassment claims are taken seriously though, and if deemed valid, and actively a serious burden, then expect that player to get banned.

Oh, it’s not enough that it is “valid,” a claim also has the mountain to climb of proving that is actively a serious burden.

I just…what. Actively a “serious” burden. So, what, people who aren’t harassing…enough(???) just skate on by, according to that standard.

It can’t be said often enough, fuck that dude.

DarthSmegma

@Wizz ‘and actively a serious burden for Cujo or his besties’

GF

@Wizz Oh, I know. I have no illusion of ever changing his mind about anything. I just think there’s value in asking any dudebro who reads this thread why they think anyone cares if AoA lives or dies instead of us caring about how AoA’s staff treats people.

Polk

@GF When I read their website, keeping the game alive and healthy was a huge, recurring theme.

Join us, get big, have fun.

People there are just trained to think that way about the game. They’re probably convinced it’s altruistic to do so.

DarthSmegma

We should actively want games that have reached this level of terribleness to die. Because a year or two from now, people who haven’t read this thread will be looking for a Star Wars game, and will stumble upon this cesspool.

Spoiler alert: This is what Cujo and Co are hoping will happen. So it’s important to shine as bright a light as possible on their shittiness, which I think you all did pretty magnificently.

Thank you everyone who came forward with personal stories and corroborating testimony!

GF

@DarthSmegma This is probably me splitting hairs, but I feel like people in general tend to think of a game as something separate from the people who compose a game. In that sense, my only concern is that people should be safe from predators. If that means AoA dies right now, then that’s fine with me. If it means a populist uprising manages to throw out all the predators and creates a new staff regime that actually protects players, and the game lasts another forty years, then that’s also fine with me. AoA is nothing to me either way.

Pax

@Sammich I was high as hell tbh

kopecup

Cujo’s post…

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Two of them wanted someone banned from the game who they believed was a sexual harasser.

This is simply not true. No one ever requested to ban him. The two (now former) staff wanted Hadrix removed from staff, not banned.

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

The situations that were used as evidence happened over a year ago. It was two claims of evidence. One was from 2018, the other from last year.

This is also not true. Several people who are not related to these two “situations” have said they reported sexual harassment by Hadrix (or other players) to Cujo and that Cujo did nothing. Other victims didn’t report because, clearly, reporting does nothing. Cujo’s insistence that it was ‘just two times from some malcontents’ is disingenuous.

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

Being on Staff is not a promotion, if anything it’s additional workload x10 what you might expect.

Being on staff also allows you to see hidden locations, IP addresses, purchases, travel, +sheets, gear, backgrounds, alts, suspect pages, and all manner of other things that a questionable player should not have access to. That is the entire point of this thread. Questionable players, cheats, harassers, should not be staff.

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

All sexual harassment claims are taken seriously though, and if deemed valid, and actively a serious burden, then expect that player to get banned.

This line is exactly why I made the first post of this thread. This line is why I caused trouble. When it comes from a ‘popular’ player, there are no levels of harassment that Cujo will agree are an active burden. Especially considering he is pretending that much of the harassment I originally referenced, and which other people have added since, does not exist.

Silencing a number of accounts (nuking alts and @newpassing main characters) just before he made his explanation post is telling. All the silenced players have some flimsy explanation for being nuked/newpassed, but it’s not the same explanation across the board, and for some people, there is no explanation at all. Some attempt has been made to call this type of character removal ‘standard,’ but it is unprecedented, especially on this scale, and for this suspiciously select group of players.

At no point have Hadrix or Cujo issued an apology to the community for any hurt caused, accepted responsibility, communicated an intention toward meaningful change, or expressed remorse for even unintentional harm.

I stand by the first post that I made. I said what I said.

Selira

@RedShoes said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

And icing to the cake, Cujo finally speaks on game.

…

We have had about 3 major cases of this in the past 8 years, and those 3 cases were dealt with swiftly once the proper evidence was ruled upon.

Cujo**

This moment, alone, should tell everyone his claims are bullshit. I’ve been on large games where I’ve had three sexual harassment incidents against me, personally, in one week (hello, IRE, you also have major problems). Three over eight years simply isn’t a believable number, and it tells me that either people are afraid to come forward (obviously true from this thread) or that if they do, the cases are dismissed by and large out of hand (obviously also true from this thread).

I’m not sure I’d even expect three cases in eight years from a moderate-sized, 50+ person company, let alone a game full of MUers.