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Asking for RP
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@KarmaBum said in Asking for RP:
This is probably a product of playing Pern, where finding an unclaimed dong on the grid was like finding a gd leprechaun.
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There’s also a difference between:
“we should rp sometimes”
“hey, i’d really like to rp with you!”
“we should totally rp!”
“let’s rp some time!”
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“Hey. Would you like a scene right now?”
“Are you up for RP about [topic]?”
“We have this thing to talk about, I’ll start a scene!”
These are two fundamentally different ways of asking for RP. I am MUCH MORE LIKELY to register the former from friends I am close to than from strangers, whereas the latter always catches my attention, regardless of who says it, because it’s precise and promises an actual outcome.
I don’t count “we should RP sometime” from strangers as ‘asking me for RP’, because it’s not asking me for RP, it’s stating a nebulous desire.
Mind you, I do this too, I am 100% guilty of paging someone with “we should totally scene”, but I don’t expect anything from them based on that, and I usually follow it up with an actual request.
Sometimes I don’t because I get distracted or forget, but that’s not the point; the point is what do we actually consider as ‘asking for RP’?
In Occam I trust.
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@Coin said in Asking for RP:
Sometimes I don’t because I get distracted or forget, but that’s not the point; the point is what do we actually consider as ‘asking for RP’?
This is probably going to be massively subjective. I don’t consider me paging someone else to say “we should RP” to be asking for RP, because I’m a much more direct person and will usually say “are you free now/[at X time] to [play thing]?”
But when someone else sends me that request, I do generally read it as an RP request unless they tell me otherwise. My response to “we should RP” is usually “I agree! I’m busy right this second, but are you free on Saturday?” Because, as evidenced in this thread, most MUSHers are terrified of rejection so we should RP is as much as they’re willing to risk, so - if they went to all the trouble to page me - I can at least meet them halfway.
I do really appreciate when people bring their ideas. I’d much rather get a “we should RP about thing X” than “we should RP” request, but one thing at a time.
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I almost always say right after we should RP, do you have some good day this week or next week" and arrange it. Just because I know unless I schedule it and literally I have to write things down it will not happen. Plus I’m often in a slightly minority timezone so if I want to catch people during the week I have to plan for it.
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@KarmaBum said in Asking for RP:
if they went to all the trouble to page me - I can at least meet them halfway.
Bless you for this. That is all.
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I definitely feel like I ask for RP more than I get asked, but I think I’ve decided that’s not so big a deal, for me, anymore. I’m not sure. I’ve written before about struggles paging people, and I know that feeling of asking on public channels and getting no replies, but I’m trying to just work on things and get more comfortable with the paging and what not.
I’ve definitely done the whole ‘we should rp!’ thing in the past as a way of asking ‘lets play right now’ though.
There was a time once where a similar topic came up about the difficulties of finding RP back on MSB I think, and some of the reponses were along the lines of:
‘vague rp requests don’t interest me, people need to come up with something to do, so if I see ‘who wants to play’ I won’t respond but if someone says ‘i’ll be at <location> doing <thing> if anyone wants to come along!’ then I might’
I always felt this was a bit odd personally because I’d rather see who’s around for RP and then figure out what to do – if I’m the one asking for RP I’m generally always willing to figure out the what, the where, and even do the set, but I like to know who is gonna be involved before figuring out the details.
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@Livia said in Asking for RP:
‘vague rp requests don’t interest me, people need to come up with something to do, so if I see ‘who wants to play’ I won’t respond but if someone says ‘i’ll be at <location> doing <thing> if anyone wants to come along!’ then I might’
For me it’s not so much the vague requests but the expectation that I come to the table with something if that makes sense? I’ll absolutely volunteer to rp if I’m available but I don’t want to have to come up with the location, set, etc. every single time.
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@bear_necessities said in Asking for RP:
I don’t want to have to come up with the location, set, etc. every single time.
“How often do you [feel like you] do the heavy lifting in a scene” is probably a whole other poll.
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@bear_necessities Absolutely! I get that, and one thing that does make me frown is something that happened just recently. When someone asked me for RP (heh!) and I said sure, then they needed me to come up with the place, the reason, the setting, everything. It’s not that big a deal really, but it did make me frown a little.
But assuming a request of ‘who would like to RP?’ means that the other people need to come up with the details feels like an incorrect expectation to me. I’m more than willing to come up with the scene, I just want to know who’s in so I can work with the available character hooks etc before I plan out what’s going down.
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I sort of wish we could somehow separate ‘scene heavy lifting’ and ‘asking for RP’, in that I know personally I have zero problems coming up with something to do on the fly in like 99% of the situations – it is a Skill, but it is also a skill I know not everyone has. Culturally, we discourage people from paging for RP if they don’t have that ability in a moment, but damn, I have WAY WAY WAY more of a problem asking to RP at all than I do with coming up with scenes/getting things set and moving.
It would be nice of could like normalize “hey I’m happy to RP but I don’t quite have the oomph to set scene today” without it coming across as passive aggressive as it does. Or, sulky, or whatever it is. Because I bet there are people that would ask to RP, and people that would be happy to set if they were asked, and right now there’s no good way to introduce those two groups.
the entity previously known as Sunny
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I’m a lazy fucking coward who only ever asks most people once and is constantly hyper-aware that I may be pulled away by any number of real life landmines.
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I am shy about asking for rp unless I have a concrete reason to do so, in which case i have zero shame. I think it also depends on game culture for me; on Ares, no problem asking on rp requests, while on some other games you have to pm anyone you want a scene with, and that’s kind of nerve-wracking if it’s just a random approach. Still, I’ve pretty much gotten over the anxiety of it and tend to just go for it with varying levels of success. It’s harder on games that have been around a while, because typically, people have long-term rp circles there and I find those are the ones who usually don’t respond.
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I’m not always great at coming up with things to do myself, but I can find a spot and set something ‘generic’ easily enough. I probably came across a bit harsher on ‘not coming up with things’ than intended in my previous example, it was just one particular recent occurance that stuck with me.
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This whole thread about ‘overinflicting’ is just like… saaaammee.
I get so excited when I see people log in/pop active that I’m just like ‘omgomgomg I thought of like 5 things that might be fun to RP while you were doing sensible things like sleeping (because opposite sides of the planet) can weeeee?’ as the other person is still trying to wake up and get to a point of functioning and I’m watching this window of availability tick down to the point where I have to go to sleep and I feel like I’m being a lot extra and the bag of over caffeinated squirrels that is my brain is just like whoa you need to chill or you’re going to burn everyone out.
So as such I try NOT to be ‘that person’ that is like constantly jumping on people begging to scene the second they log in but a lot of the time I’m sitting on my hands trying SO HARD not to squirrel.
Definitely related: Ares is a godsend for being able to stay ‘involved’ when you’re in an off-peak timezone.
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@Artemis said in Asking for RP:
I am shy about asking for rp unless I have a concrete reason to do so, in which case i have zero shame.
For sure this, I struggle as is with RP without like an end point or general focus around it. Probably from RPing before and the main topics were like, the weather. Flavour of tea and the weather again. Plus there’s that feeling of “omg what if they are bored and watching Netflix on the main.”
Or I end up paging, asking how someone is doing. End up talking about the dog, the cat and what is for dinner. It’s been like an hour and I forgot to ask about RPing.
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@Whisky said in Asking for RP:
Flavour of tea
Bergamot is the superior flavour extract in tea. I will fight anyone who disagrees.
ETA:
To the topic at hand, though, I find asking for RP easy. When I’m in a certain mood, when the planets are aligned correctly, and assuming I’m fully medicated.
Like a few of the above folks, I believe that if you’re the one asking, you should also be the one with at least a suggestion of what to do. It’s like asking me around to your house but having no idea what you want to do when I get there. It’s frustrating.
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I don’t often suggest what to do when I ask for RP. On Atharia I do something like ‘If there is an NPC you want to interact with, let me know.’ or I say we can do something related to X plot or exploration. I’m also a wing it kind of girl. Like plots I run the only things I plan are what my end goal is and to make sure everyone in the scene gets a moment to shine. So, I’m an example of what drives most of you nuts.
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I spent way too long writing a couple paragraphs reflecting on my struggles with asking for RP, and RP in general. And then I was like ‘fuck it, no one wants to read this shit’ and deleted them.
Which is an accurate representation of my struggles with asking for RP, and RPing in general.
