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Bannings
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@junipersky Eeeehhhh no but I can draw that too someday.
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@crawfish I now suddenly feel obligated if you’re going to play Stray.
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@Testament sigh
Probably. But only after I finish Subnautica.
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Jesus Christ, you guys. I stop posting for two months and all of a sudden I’m friends with Roz and Hellfrog? It’s like you fuckers don’t know me at all.
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So, yeah. Welcome to the party. You and I are friends now.
(It’s only funny if you’re Cher though, that’s how I meant it.)
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@Aria
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If we’re friends now, I expect your meme tax to be paid regularly and on time. I recommend adhering to a weekly basis to avoid the panic rush of looming deadlines.
In order to save on clerical fees, this can be submitted in the same conversation as us making vague noises at each other about how we should RP but not actually doing it.
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i really want to rp with you all again, as i get back into arx.
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I walked away.
Ultimately, I don’t think there’s going to be any changing minds on that board, and I was twisting myself in knots and refreshing the damn page every few minutes for several hours. That shit ain’t healthy, especially for a place that isn’t going to reciprocate.
I’d rather focus on making content here.
This means there’s probably an anime thread in your future, for which I apologize. ( Except I ain’t sorry. )
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@Solstice Yeah, there was a two week span I just stopped everything over there, and then one day everything exploded again. It’s hard to not call out the blatant hypocrisy, but it’s probably never going to stop.
Especially when Ghost is going to stir shit up and then play innocent like he’s not the one who keeps restarting things after they die down. On top of the MSB admins just… ignoring him breaking their rules right in front of them. Just keep piling up the evidence that it wasn’t actually about making a better forum. Because if it was, again… they could have gone and made their own new forum. I’ve been told a couple times now it’s not that hard.
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@Meg you about to claim #1 spot on ignore young lady
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@Jennkryst said in Bannings:
@Solstice Yeah, there was a two week span I just stopped everything over there, and then one day everything exploded again. It’s hard to not call out the blatant hypocrisy, but it’s probably never going to stop.
Especially when Ghost is going to stir shit up and then play innocent like he’s not the one who keeps restarting things after they die down. On top of the MSB admins just… ignoring him breaking their rules right in front of them. Just keep piling up the evidence that it wasn’t actually about making a better forum. Because if it was, again… they could have gone and made their own new forum. I’ve been told a couple times now it’s not that hard.
Too-serious hat on:
For the folks celebrating, it was never about having their own space free of the people they’re demonizing, it was about driving those people out of the space they were already in.
This makes perfect sense in a context-less vacuum. We do it all the time with folks we consider toxic to the community/hobby, and I will argue that in a context-less vacuum that is generally a good thing. Unfortunately, in-context, the people doing the driving are largely the people who have been on the receiving end of the ostracism (or, heaven forbid, having people tell them to shut the fuck up and stop being an asshole now and then), and they were not on the receiving end of the community’s ostracism because we’re all just catty bitches, but because they caused genuine harm and, in many cases, seemed to absolutely thrive on it.
That’s not the majority of the folks left on MSB, though I’m not particularly thrilled with the behavior of the majority of folks left on MSB. But it’s the majority of folks that have stepped into the vacant spaces and are now making threads about how they’ve vanquished the evil bad people who dared to tell them to stop being awful. It’s the answer to my previous rhetorical question of “why are you lying about this?” Because it serves their needs and they’re taking victory laps.
In any case, I think this thread is largely beneficial. There’s a spot to be angry, express hurt, make stupid jokes about same, and bolster each other. If it’s clique behavior to say ‘you’re valid and you didn’t deserve this’ in the context of what happened, then oh well. Yeah, the people taking victory laps are reveling in people being angry/hurt where they can see it, but in the end, they shouldn’t be factored into the equation of what folks need. In time, things will heal; not as regards the current rift, but as regards genuine emotional injury, and this thread will rest.
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@Snackness NO PLUS ONES. THIS IS AN EXCLUSIVE CLIQUE.
Clearly not any plus ones, since Blu made it and I didn’t. We’re nitpicking a list that’s impossible to make anyhow, since membership in either category will depend on who the “victims” need to complain about at any given time.
But it’s fun, right?
just as a person, I’d really love for us to…move on from obsessing about What They’re Saying Over There because I think it does perpetuate some bad blood and keep things emotional.
Completely agreed.
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@blu Hello, BFF
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I have been pondering MSB and the blow up a bit today since it was brought back to my brain with the recent dramas.
I don’t think it is bad they want to change the tone of MSB. I think the method they went about it was awful and the fact they basically ignored the many people who objected to Derp’s being made admin. The complaints I saw about him being promoted were well thought out and expressed in a reasonable way. By the majority. He is showing exactly why so many of us are not comfortable with his position by how he is handling everything as it is. Instant accusations of trouble stirring when there is no intention too, dismissing pretty much any attempts to express disagreements, getting mad because he has to explain the same thing repeatedly because people aren’t understanding, etc. The ban hammer slamming down on people for doing what exactly they have been doing during the life of MSB was baffling too.
Over all, I don’t care how people run their own thing as long as they are upfront and give a period for people to to assimilate to the changes. They wasn’t exactly offered by MSB. Like? If someone wants to ban a person for ‘not being the right fit’ for a game, go for it. Same for trying to make bits that don’t fit their ideas of games, whatever. IF someone wants to run their game a specific way and ban for X reason, reasonable or not, more power to them. However, I am not likely to join certain games/places when it comes to stuff that I can’t just accept and roll with (even if I don’t agree).
Those have just been the thoughts rolling in my little brain today after the current blow up.
I hope MSB gets their personal ‘utopia’ that they want to create. I won’t be part of it because there is a lot of things on how they are handling things and past things that have been done by current ‘staff’ that I can’t ignore like I do for a lot of things that I don’t necessarily agree with or like but can accept.
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@icanbeyourmuse I don’t believe a desire to change the tone of MSB was ever part of it. All this kicked off because people were not submitting to Derp and Ganymede’s authority. Trying to “change the tone of the board” after kicking half the users off feels to me like an attempt to reclaim the narrative with a retroactive justification. We’re not tin-pot tyrants; they’re just toxic members who needed to be excised for the good of the community!
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@GF It’s likely them trying to control the story, yeah, but I want to attempt and think the best of their plans even if my mind is quite certain they are not doing it out of a desire to improve. So, I’d rather phrase things like the intention is good because my little heart wants it to be over wording it for the worst.
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I’ve been a pretty long-time lurker on MSB, logging in occasionally just to see if a new game got advertised (increasingly rare), and I must say that it’s a good thing you had a split. Also the people who make new games tend to get run off for various reasons. Not sure how much of a fan I am of that.