MU Peeves Thread
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@Roz I ALSO HATE THEM AND SO DOES MY ADHD
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@Roz cool downs are dumb and shouldn’t be a thing
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@Roz Agreed. Both of those are dumb.
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I got all spun up and ready to fite against bank limits and cooldowns but it looks like almost everyone agrees that it’s a silly system. Welp.
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@helvetica All I remember from that episode is the bike.
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wait why would someone limit spending XP.
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@junipersky Games like Exalted and Shadowrun time-gate how long it takes you to learn stuff.
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I generally dislike time gates and justifications re: xp.
I think folks should do what they want within the normal rules of the game. -
Okay but - wait what?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to just… not allow the XP in the first place to be earned quicker than skills can be learned rather than give it and then tell people they can’t use it!??
I’m so befuddled by this concept.
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@junipersky Folks who prefer cooldowns on XP spends and caps to unspent XP tend to cite instances where a PC has spend a ton of XP all at once, to go from not having a skill to being an expert, particularly if the timing was particularly convenient, i.e., a situation arose where the skill would be useful so they spend their hoard of XP to suddenly be good at it. Some folks find this immersion breaking and obnoxious to deal with.
But I just can’t really bring myself to find it a compelling argument, particularly when weighed against the cons that happens: people getting behind where their PC could be due to entirely OOC reasons. Those reasons could be medical (very easy to forget for some ADHD folks), RL emergencies happening, even normal stuff like vacation. I just don’t think it’s fun, nice, or kind to turn this into a game of OOC homework just because of some potential edge cases that – aren’t really a practical problem other than temporarily bugging some people.
And you’d have the exact same impact from someone spending their XP regularly on raising a skill and just not really mentioning it/RPing it. It will look the exact same as them spending the XP all at once. Or they’re just not someone you know and RP with! Or sometimes someone IS RPing about it, but they miss a weekly XP spend cutoff, and then they lose out on that week of OOC progress even though it’s an active part of their story.
(And if the impact of raising skills is statistically negligible, as it can be in some systems…then it also doesn’t matter if someone raises it a bunch at once. If the numbers don’t matter one way, they don’t matter the other.)
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These problems largely stem from people trying to apply RAW to MUs. Most of those ‘time gates’ are IC time gates, which aren’t an issue in most tabletop games at all because the GM usually just goes ‘okay, time skip, spend your XP’ at some point. This is what those rules are written for.
Applying them to games with 1:1 or even 1:2 or 1:3 (rare as those may be) time progressions means no time skipping, and thus people have to wait real life units of time, which it was never meant to work with.
