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IDK, to me ‘bleed’ is letting your (the player’s) emotional read on situations to color your character’s actions. It’s not a problem if your character’s emotions bleed into you, that’s - as pointed out- the expected outcome. That’s what makes the hobby addicting.

The issue is when you are making things weird with your character reactions due to your ooc read on situations.

Look. I absolutely believe that there have been occasions where player/s decide to be mean on purpose in order to drive someone else away. I am SURE it has happened. I am also 100% sure that it doesn’t happen even half as often as people assume it is happening to them. The vast majority of people who step on your feelings are not doing it ‘on purpose’. They aren’t even thinking about you.

firan. i had never even heard of MUs.

@Yam said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:

Damn!!!

lol+

@Gashlycrumb said in Bad Stuff Happening IC:

I wouldn’t be surprised to find that most players who respond badly to bad stuff happening to their PCs have had experiences of unfair non-interactive bad stuff being used to shut them out of the game.

And much like unhealed people entering the dating pool before they are ready, it is their responsibility to work that out so it isn’t causing them to lash out at others.

@Roz BIG AGREE

If you as a player are thinking, ‘pfft I never have IC/OOC bleed’, you are most likely lying to yourself. And if you are lying to yourself about it, you are probably having the very bad, no good reactions when it actually happens, because you believe you are different and your emotions are all the result of valid injustice.

@Wizz is it unspoken? Are you sure?

Oh man, I took this as GMs being mean to characters. Are you ok with/do you like to be mean to players as a player is a whole other can of worms. And I do! I do not like the ooc assumptions that most often come with playing something other than 100% friendly

Fuck them up, but don’t embarrass them. I’ll embarrass my character if I feel like it.

I don’t think comparing it to bad/boring writing is the whole story. With practice, if you are trying and writing your own poses, you might actually get better at it. You might evolve into being more interesting to interact with. It might be worth throwing some rp to a new/bad writer, just to give them some practice so they can improve!

LLMs never will. I resent throwing my time and effort into a black hole where I am getting nothing from it, and neither is anyone else.

bring back downvotes

Yeah, that absolutely reads as LLM slop to me. BOooo

I very strongly disagree these detectors should be discounted. Don’t use the free one google suggests and no other checks, obviously, but the hobby needs to be protected from this slop, at whatever costs. It’s an inherently vulnerable hobby, where everyone is agreeing to submit their actual writing to another person in a scene for reaction. For fun!

It’s not just that LLM writing is hollow, bloated, and uninteresting (though it is), it’s also a breach of that fundamental contract to use it. I have always told people if they aren’t in it to have fun AND make fun for their scene partners, they need a new hobby. If you are using LLMs you are not engaged and you certainly aren’t trying to be fun to rp with.

@Warma-Sheen said in AI In Poses:

@somasatori said in AI In Poses:

I have a question. What do you get out of MUSHing, a hobby wherein you write paragraphs at people in a turn-based format, when you’re not actually doing the writing? What’s the end goal there?

I’ve had this conversation with more than a few people and one of the most common themes that came up: an experience as close to tabletop gaming as possible, but without being crapped on because of not being able to put out AP English writing or wait 20 minutes per exchange for all the editing.

MU*ers can be catty, judgemental, petty, elitist, etc… to a higher degree than any I’ve ever known, probably to do with internet anonymity, which is one of the reasons the hobby continues to grow smaller and smaller. I’ve never known a community so highly motivated/invested in killing itself off as intensely as this one, and I’ve known some pretty shitty communities in my life (I’m old… er now.)

People show up to MU*s for very different reasons and it sometimes seems like a large number of people assume that everyone else around them is there for the exact same reason as them then get frustrated/confused when they don’t play the way they would.

I’ve had the conversation on other threads, so I won’t get into it again here if people reply back to tell me all the ways I’m wrong, but taking a tool that improves writing and using it on text based game seems like it would be a godsend to cure many of the ills that people have complained endlessly about for decades - bad writing, lack of storytellers, no interesting plots.

But to each, their own. People will feel how they feel about it and that’s okay, I guess. Its just sad for me cause I loved this hobby and I really thought this might actually put some life back into it, like CPR. So it was disappointing/sad/whatever when all the villagers pointed at the thing that could bring someone back to life thereby improving the outlook/prosperity of the entire community, called it a witch, and want it burned at the stake.

ETA: Not for nothing, but to go along with the analogy, some non-small portion of the thread is basically a witch hunt - with dubious degrees of accuracy.

@Faraday ok but 88 essays is not a sample size that anyone can take seriously.

If your rp isn’t boring and hollow, then it won’t ping as AI even if you use em-dashes for whatever reason. It’s not just the dashes.

@somasatori RIP

@Yam Nip what in the bud in strangers? Just the general…combo of sensitivity/insensitivity that is ‘being difficult’?

I used to get a lot of shit for telling people on arx: 'people you rp with are not your friends. treat them like friendly strangers and don’t presume getting along in rp scenes means you are building real ooc bonds"

I was just in a position where I could see so many problems were the result of ‘i thought X and i were on the same page, now they have done something off-script and I am feeling HURT so their actions were done on purpose to HURT ME’

@Warma-Sheen
can you be for real for once

No one is even bringing receipts to this thread, when there are absolutely receipts that prove you are still lying/were lying when you got banned. The audacity of crying off with some ‘people love to go for blood’ when YOU WERE THE ONE WHO TRIED TO GET PEOPLE TO GO FOR BLOOD.

This isn’t 2001, no one believes your girlfriend wife from Canada ‘had’ your password and logged you on to accidentally pose as you. No one believes someone you never rpd with on a new game told you in secret that no one but you had been nice to them so please take all their org’s resources.

I just wanted to know what the mindset is that makes someone sock puppet on a new game instead of, idk, trying to rp.

Even if SauNOT, this guy has more than once joined a game just to cheat, right out of the gate, with a side of negging the game runner from the fake alt for absolutely no reason. ‘your game sux, no one has reached out or been nice to me except Me’

And then posted a banning conversation to try and sabotage said game. Yikes, buddy