@Pacha said in Empire Discussion Thread:

Obviously, it is Ada’s game and they are paying to keep the lights on, so they can do as they like. But if they are going to ban everyone who ever makes a slightly backhanded remark, they may end up banning a lot of people.

@helvetica and @Trashcan said it very well.

I do respect the way you and @Faraday approach it, it’s very kind to do that lifting for someone who may or may not just be having a bad day, but you’re giving a stranger the benefit of the doubt in a situation where the adult thing to do would and should be taking the time to wait out your disregulation rather than lash out at someone you barely know on their game where, again, you are only a guest and playing because they have dedicated the time, effort, and money to providing that space.

if someone decides to ban lots of very rude strangers, I mean. so what? this is honestly the only medium I have ever played where bans are considered this shocking “nuclear option.” they are actually pretty common on tons of other platforms, and it doesn’t prevent them from being diverse and active spaces, because it’s about creating and maintaining the game culture and they understand that people come and go regardless.

@Pacha said in Empire Discussion Thread:

However, Ada does also come across as a little thin-skinned here. It does feel like she has jumped to the nuclear option very quickly. If that is her definition of brow-beating, she should prepare to feel that way a lot with the average MU crowd, honestly.

gonna disagree pretty firmly. I do not at all think that behavior is typical of the “average” crowd. I have MU*'d for a vast chunk of my life, and while I have certainly met a LOT of people who were pushy, disrespectful, or just straight up walking talking asshole, I have met tons of people who weren’t just fun, but considerate of RL and respectful enough not to cross a line like that – or at least never more than once; everyone starts somewhere, learning is a lifelong process, etc etc.

what you would call thin skinned, I would just say is having a strong boundary against shitty behavior, and it’s going to set a pretty clear precedent for what is and is not an acceptable way to approach Ada. I honestly would prefer more staff to have a very clear and hard line like that, because the only places I ever played where childish assholes were the average were where the staff were too inconsistent and let that kind of incredibly fucking irritating immaturity fly.

it’s their table, you’re a guest, act like it. it’s not hard.

@Warma-Sheen

just for the record, that kind of context paints the interaction differently and would’ve been important to have, but my impression isn’t entirely changed. in your op, you said:

@Warma-Sheen said in Empire Discussion Thread:

That’s the log in entirety. Nothing left out. That was it, completely. So be careful if you’re there. Don’t ask questions about policies or procedures. And definitely don’t communicate if you receive mixed messages and are confused.

And no, there were no other incidents that preceded this. It was just this from start to finish. One and done.

so yes, it did initially come off like just out of the blue you got very upset and impatient over small delay, which is not reasonable.

having your expectations set to a different standard and then watching them not be met with no explanation can be frustrating, I’ll give you that, but it was still only a difference of a few days, and this was the first time it had happened? so the way you approached it hit me as very unpleasant especially given that it was, like you said, your very first conversation about the issue.

try not to miss the forest for the trees, like. life happens you don’t have context for, this is something Ada was providing out of pocket at no expense to you, a little friendliness and patience goes a long way.

@Faraday

it wasn’t just canceling the jobs, it was that entire exchange. as Ada called it, getting browbeaten like that over something incredibly minor, to me, reads like a big red flag for what was only going to be an escalating series of headaches and selfish behavior down the road, and showing a player like that the door early really doesn’t seem like a bad move to me.

if you want a GM at your beck and call, just to be frank, there are professional paid online tabletop services that offer that you can go and find very easily. they’re advertised everywhere.

@Faraday

canceling a bunch of other jobs out of frustration because one hadn’t been responded to in less than a week just feels like really entitled behavior in 2025, and definitely doesn’t feel like a polite follow up to me, but ymmv.

@Warma-Sheen said in Empire Discussion Thread:

I cancelled a bunch of others cause having a bunch of actions open that we’re being addressed was really making me feel a kind of way.

you complained that job 18 had been open longest and she points out that it hadn’t even been 5 days? that is looney toons, dude.

I’ve been playing Cyberpunk 2077 again and gdi I just want my chromed-out hijinks, choom. 🥺

it’s such a rich well for stories about a society on the edge and the battle against nihilistic excess and exploitation. I’d love to see a smaller game that really focuses on a specific group of anti-corporate runner cells, who are trying the line between sticking to their ideals and surviving, while public sentiment and massive companies often dead set against them. players would all belong to these cells so would all be loosely affiliated and expected to work together, but could run their own side shenanigans as well.

@Pacha said in MU Peeves Thread:

However, I think FS3 is just so flexible that it can adapt to any number of settings, and also, there are some experts who have got the combat on it down to such a science that most things can be “made to fit” FS3 even if it isn’t their intended/natural home.

this is specifically what I find frustrating in play – you will never forget that FS3’s being bent out of shape to accommodate something it wasn’t meant to do and that just takes away a lot of the fun for me. I enjoy the “game” part of “roleplaying game” as much as the RP.

Ares is wonderful, I am glad it’s easy to set up and run for so many people and yes, 1000000% I am happy that there are still games out there for that reason, but I think the perception a lot of people have that FS3 = Ares and how few try the other plug-ins is just personally a bummer.

almost every single Ares game, existing and in the works, using FS3 just because it’s what people have gotten used to by necessity.

love and respect FS3 for what it was intended for, and I know this probably sounds ridiculous to anyone who just doesn’t care that much about systems, but personally, it kills my enthusiasm immediately whenever I visit a game’s site for the first time and see it in the wiki for supernatural/fantasy settings. I find the “square peg, round hole” of it all really frustrating.

@somasatori said in Star Wars Age of Alliances: Hadrix and Cujo:

“The staff lost interest in this MUSH and let it fizzle out so play with them at this other one where that absolutely won’t happen again”

As a wise thinker once said: “There’s an old saying in Tennessee - I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on-- shame on you. Fool me, uh – you can’t get fooled again.”

I mean, to be fair, the game ran for a few years. that’s a pretty common lifespan. ‍️

I played pretty briefly and it seemed like a good setup, even if I didn’t much like what they wound up doing with the Jedi and Force and all that thematically.

@MeToo

what happened??

@Jumpscare

I was working on a game a few years back set in Utah about the fight against a secret society of supernatural body jumpers hidden within a large, prominent religion here but in the end figured it would be more headache than it was worth, lol.

but I still think SLC would be a fascinating setting for urban fantasy/horror.

@Solstice said in Your first game?:

In hindsight, I was really waaaaay too young to be on the wild west internet of 1996

oof, saaaame.

I am not quite sure I remember which one was first, but it was either The Lion King MU* or Heroes and Villains.

hilariously I tried to apply to Project Infinity for literal years and one of the appstaff replied to one application something like “I just want to say, your writing has improved so much” and I was too embarrassed to admit that it was because I had been like 13 when I first started trying, lol

@somasatori said in PyReach:

The one I hear the most is Changeling Kiths and Seemings no longer being attached to one another.

sidebar obvs but, why? from my (admittedly fairly limited) experience with Changeling it seems like most peeps in MU-land were basically doing that anyway, just with a kind of pricey Merit that existed in the first edition?

I still think about the hard-hitting reporting on the VOTING SCANDAL in '22 every so often and chuckle. these beautiful chonks are such a light in these dark times.

Rick Davies.

I am very tempted to just go stand in the middle of a club and yell “PLAY THE SUPERTRAMP!!” over and over, like Diedrich Baker in Evil Alien Conquerors. 🥺

@Jumpscare

ty, I desperately needed that snort-laugh this week.

I’m not sure what you use for email, but I know Gmail at least has that feature built in, I also used to use it for work. it’s been a long minute since I set it up but I am positive it’s in the help docs.

@MisterBoring said in Numetal/Retromux:

The vast majority of players in our hobby understand how to make unique special characters without trying their damnedest to drive it into everyone’s faces at 100 miles an hour.

lol. in my experience, the vast majority of players in the hobby are all guilty of this behavior to one degree or another. it’s just a matter of how much or little each community will tolerate it and what kind, and that changes from game to game.

paying the @dvoraen cat tax:

Alucard is such a friend.