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MU Peeves Thread
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Also, I wish that I had the moral and artistic chops to want to play a normal looking PC.
But if I wanted to play a plain, boring, dumpy person, I mean I get that opportunity in RL. I got scars but even those are boring, one from cracking my chin open rollerscating and then a c-section scar. I pass out with needles so i can’t even get cool tattoos unless they’re the lick and stick kind. I don’t really get the hate on for wanting to have a PC that stands out in a crowd.
PB attractiveness though is kind of weird. I remember a discussion on a channel one time where someone was critiquing someone’s Striking Looks character for having Jennifer Gray as a PB because she was “ugly”. Which honestly just boggled my damn mind. I get that people get frustrated with actors being used because the truth is especially for female pcs, there’s just realities of who gets work in the industry. It’s even hard to find “strong” female pcs in the fitness department in actors and I think there’s a certain comfort in using actors who are paid to do many roles, vs. people like mma and other athletes where their fame is due to /them/ not an acting role that makes people a little less comfortable with pulling them. (I’ve used an mma fighter who started to branch off into other acting roles for one of my TR characters but it was because I saw a picture of her searching for something else and she looked like she really could rip someone’s arm off, and I had an ogre. But even she was not what I would term ‘ugly’ either).
I guess i’m also weird in that i really haven’t seen that many what I would term ugly people or even plain people in my life. I personally easily find attractive features in almost every human. So again, when I see someone using a picture, after i RP with them awhile usually I can figure out what it is about that that grabbed the player. Sometimes it really is “I want to have a PC that is conventionally attractive and seductive for people interested in that gender and body type”. Most of the time though there’s something else. And that can be fun to figure out, if you like or don’t mind their RP.
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looks up Jennifer Gray
Wait, what? People think she’s ugly? I’d sell my soul, and probably yours too, to be as pretty as she is!
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@mietze I agree with everything you said! I enjoy playing attractive PCs and would struggle to write a completely unremarkable character, because even when I try they end up interesting or multifaceted in some way. I think the interesting parts of them are what cause them to be appealing, also.
Anyway, liking PBs and ascii art or simply disliking descriptions is all well and good. I think the point of my original post was just to express how their widespread use can be a slight annoyance to me and presumably any other VI player in an otherwise fully accessible hobby. On Arx I can’t read a majority of people’s clothing descs because of the lack of regulation with no_ascii tags, and on Ares I have to literally skip a step on chargen because I can’t see pictures. Could be something to think about, possibly, idk. -
If I wanted to play an unattractive character, I’d just play myself.
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@Artemis i get it! I do think that’s important to think about especially the barrier in CG! I feel like I’ve been shifted now more to a “desc for my pc is more a tool for other players rather than for me” due to this discussion and its interesting to think of things with that reframing.
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This brings up a WoD/CofD peeve of mine. It’s STRIKING Looks. Not sexy looks. The character stands out in some way, not necessarily because they’re hot/pretty/etc. Yes, in 1E they describe it as attractive, but even before 2E, I saw people use it for characters that weren’t “hawt” but had something distinctive about them. Example: Grotesque, which didn’t give them Persuasion type advantages but Intimidation instead.
I’m very glad in 2E they changed it to reflect that.
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I have definitely played people who weren’t hot, but they were definitely dynamic and attractive.
Especially the quarian, who routinely advised people how handsome he was.
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@sao the magnetism and charisma you are capable of emoting with a single written sentence has both always impressed me and confused me. Like what is this black magic stoppit also wait come back-
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@crawfish I mean the sentence he usually used was just “I am very handsome” so that can’t be what you mean, but thank you
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@sao I never said it made sense!
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@Roz I thought I was the friend
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I’m notoriously problematic.
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One option for a PB picture that isn’t actually some actor, model, or whatever is thispersondoesnotexist.com – you’ll need to click a lot, no doubt, to find one you like, but there are infinite possibilities for AI-generated faces.
I don’t really have an opinion on PBs myself. Some people like them, some people don’t.
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@L-B-Heuschkel lol god I forgot about this and started clicking through it and was like OH RIGHT
It’s really cool but sometimes you get like demon faces in the background. Like this one, check out the bottom right:
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What I am hearing is that this is the perfect PB for a person who is possessed but it is subtle and they are acting like a normal friendly person.
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@tsar it’s giving emotional vampire @ What We Do in the Shadows
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@tsar said in MU Peeves Thread:
@L-B-Heuschkel lol god I forgot about this and started clicking through it and was like OH RIGHT
It’s really cool but sometimes you get like demon faces in the background. Like this one, check out the bottom right:
Oh yes, many of them are horrible. I still nick NPC faces from there a lot.
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@L-B-Heuschkel It really is an excellent resource! I’d just totally forgotten about the random stuff it pulls up until that moment. I kind of love it, though, in its own way.