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MU Peeves Thread
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STORY. Once upon a time on an MMO far far away there was someone in my guild who nearly destroyed it with a whisper campaign that had to have been going on for at least a year. I can only guess at the motivation, but I think my guess is pretty accurate, and that’s that this player was, uh. I’m going with “Spreadsheet Supervillain”. Most spreadsheet enthusiasts are lovely people I deeply appreciate because they have the ability to be slightly organized, which is basically benevolent wizardry. This person wanted to Organize Things and that also meant Organizing What Other Players Did. She was also a Very Serious Roleplayer who was convinced anyone who did anything slightly goofy in the general vicinity of RP was not a Very Serious Roleplayer. She once blew up at @Solstice for jumping around while we were hanging out waiting for her to get back to the group. This was such a terrible breach of Serious Roleplay Decorum that she brought it up months later as an example of someone who just wasn’t interested in roleplay, and thus not fit for the guild. It was incredible.
In any case, at some point she started sending private messages to guildmembers about me, and a few others that had unknowingly slid onto her carefully ordered Excel-powered shitlist by RPing personal character story stuff without allowing her to choose the when and how (did she even express her desire to do this? lol no). At the same time, she’d send private messages to me (and the others) being very concerned, goodness there are anonymous guildmembers telling her that they’re upset that I’m doing <thing> or not doing <thing> or maybe they’re just all concerned too, and gosh she’s just trying to be helpful and encouraging. Maybe it was a coincidence that she started doing this more or less right after I told the guild that I have some pretty severe social anxiety, but ahaha no it wasn’t, she literally backed me into a corner at a guild meetup to tell me how everyone had been talking about me on the drive over.
This went on for ages, but skipping to the end, nobody knew the extent of what she’d been doing until it suddenly blew up. Folks I’d been friendly with for years never interacted with me again. She skipped out immediately without a single glance back, but everything was so poisoned, and emotions were so raw, that I ended up leaving the guild anyway. I rejoined some decent length of time later, and I still RP’d with the guild in the interim, but that’s my personal experience with someone trying to run me out of an RP space.
I’m wiser to that bullshit these days, but I think ultimately the tl;dr of it is that it can and does absolutely happen, just not in the volume or necessarily the circumstances that the accusation tends to be thrown about, and it’s probably very dependent on a person’s vulnerabilities and how well the manipulator can poke at them. Most folks, whether they like someone or not, have far better things to do than spend significant chunks of their leisure time trying to master chess someone off a game.
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@kalakh I had somebody pull the ‘some people expressed concern to me’ line on me as late as last week.
There is only one appropriate answer. If these people will not stand up themselves and voice their concerns, or at the very least allow their names to be used, then their complaint is invalid.
People with concerns should go to staff and make themselves known. At the very least they should allow the person they pick to talk to staff to identify them. Because it’s bloody easy to pull ‘some people agree with me, actually everyone does’ out of your arse, and there is no way to verify that these people even exist.
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@kalakh I have some wild stories about my former guildmaster in the ESO guild I’m an officer in. But it’s not RP or MU related, though this story does heavily remind me of it. Needless to say, some pretty fucked up shit happened and given the abuse they put people through, I wouldn’t piss on that person if they were on fire.
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When a scene is moving at a totally reasonable rate and someone starts jumping past me in pose order to respond first.
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@tsar I GET EXCITED OK?
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@kalakh said in MU Peeves Thread:
She once blew up at @Solstice for jumping around while we were hanging out waiting for her to get back to the group. This was such a terrible breach of Serious Roleplay Decorum that she brought it up months later as an example of someone who just wasn’t interested in roleplay, and thus not fit for the guild. It was incredible.
Look, if there’s a jump button and I’m bored, excited, saying hello, scared, low on health, or indicating where to go, I’M GONNA JUMP AND YOU CAN’T STOP ME.
…I guess I might also use it to jump over obstacles. Occasionally.
God, I remember this. What a piece of work.
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@Solstice said in MU Peeves Thread:
@kalakh said in MU Peeves Thread:
She once blew up at @Solstice for jumping around while we were hanging out waiting for her to get back to the group. This was such a terrible breach of Serious Roleplay Decorum that she brought it up months later as an example of someone who just wasn’t interested in roleplay, and thus not fit for the guild. It was incredible.
Look, if there’s a jump button and I’m bored, excited, saying hello, scared, low on health, or indicating where to go, I’M GONNA JUMP AND YOU CAN’T STOP ME.
…I guess I might also use it to jump over obstacles. Occasionally.
God, I remember this. What a piece of work.
As is right and proper. If there is a jump button, you jump! A lot! That’s what it’s there for!
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@Solstice I don’t know what a jump button is in this context but if I saw one I would definitely press it. A lot.
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People in the hobby that hear “please leave me alone” and just…can’t.
Ever.
No matter what.
And somehow, SOMEHOW, you’re the villain for wanting them to leave you the fuck alone even after you’ve said (REPEATEDLY) that they need to do so.
LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE. I AM STAYING IN MY CORNER. I WILL NOT COME BOTHER YOU IN YOURS. LEAVE. ME. ALONE.
this is not an unreasonable request.
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@Snackness It’s the button you press to jump.
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@Snackness said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Solstice I don’t know what a jump button is in this context but if I saw one I would definitely press it. A lot.
probably space bar
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Someone just make a game so I can play there, please.
Not superheroes or WoD.
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
Someone just make a game so I can play there, please.
Not superheroes or WoD.
please please please
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@bear_necessities I’m taking my best stab at it. At the very least, an attempt is being made.
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Yesterday, I was reminded of the cardinal rule of playing politics on games: go in with a way to force the other side to follow through on their deals. Because if you don’t, they will change their mind with 0 consequences.
… which leads to the inevitable ‘even more people will avoid rp with you for daring to use DICE in the SOCIALS’ and I am just so very bleh about everything at the moment. Save me from the inevitable burnout, plz.
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@Jennkryst said in MU Peeves Thread:
go in with a way to force the other side to follow through on their deals
I’m not sure if you meant to phrase it like that, but I don’t really agree. What kind of deals are you talking about? You sound like you’re talking on an OOC level, but there’s also an IC element here, and I’m not sure if you’re saying that people shouldn’t be able to change their mind on RP they said they’d do, or what.
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@Jumpscare I could have phrased it better, yeah. I had a big response with specific details typed up, but the gist is I meant ‘go in with IC ways to enforce their IC promises.’
The OOC bit I mentioned is just the part of my brain going ‘people are going to avoid RP with you because you will ICly curse them if they ICly break an IC promise’, and like… could be wrong, but it is a mood I’m stuck in.
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@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
Someone just make a game so I can play there, please.
Not superheroes or WoD.
then… aberrant??