AI Megathread

Faraday

There’s a world of difference between “I prefer not to RP with people who use AI tools” and attacking others as “disrespectful” or their writing as “bullshit.”

I don’t personally feel that calling a behavior “disrespectful” is a personal attack. I feel that online piracy is disrespectful to creators. I push back against those who feel that it’s a “victimless crime”. That doesn’t mean I think everyone who pirated GoT rather than pay for HBO is evil incarnate.

In other news, ChatGPT fails hilariously at MapMaking 101.

MisterBoring

I just desperately want a solid science / math AI to do something newsworthy, like invent a 3d printer resin with no toxic fumes, or cure a disease. I feel like by the time that comes around, people are going to distrust AI in general so much that they just ignore it. I can see it now:

Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets

Pavel

@Trashcan said in AI Megathread:

Most people would feel badly upon finding out that someone accused of using AI had not, in fact, used AI, in the same way that all false accusations garner empathy if they are disproved.

Just to touch on this note a little, without directly correcting you in particular: While it’s true that most people would feel bad upon finding out it was a false accusation, I imagine that actually finding that out would be extraordinarily difficult. The lie, or false accusation in this case, being halfway around the world before the truth has even gotten its pants on. With the additional problem being that any ‘evidence’ offered to the contrary would likely be deemed insufficient or an additional lie. So making those accusations should be done with utmost care and the expectation of being wrong, if they’re made at all.

Third Eye

@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:

Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets

That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…

Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.

Pavel

@Third-Eye Agreed. I recall reading somewhere that an AI program could detect the very, very, very early stages of some kinds of cancers far more quickly and consistently than a human. That’s the sort of thing AI should be used for, not art.

dvoraen

@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:

@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:

Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets

That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…

Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.

And to say this (bolded part) is beyond ironic is a colossal understatement. How much money would be saved having a properly trained AI do the work of what would otherwise be thousands of data analysts? Part of the point of an AI is to be able to do the things a human cannot do, because a computer’s speed is significantly higher.

AI has potential, but oh boy are “we” more determined to churn out slop than quality with it, right now.

Faraday

@Pavel said in AI Megathread:

@Third-Eye Agreed. I recall reading somewhere that an AI program could detect the very, very, very early stages of some kinds of cancers far more quickly and consistently than a human. That’s the sort of thing AI should be used for, not art.

There is research like that in the medical spaces, but that’s not the GenAI that this thread is complaining about. Those are specialized machine learning algorithms. “AI” is such an overbroad term, it’s like saying “the internet” and encompassing everything from 4chan to AP News.

@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:

That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…

Actually, ChatGPT and most of the other GenAI platforms are a huge money pit. Ed Zitron writes about this a lot (example). The investors keep buying the hype that it’ll do a vague something revolutionary someday.

Pavel

@Faraday said in AI Megathread:

The investors keep buying the hype that it’ll do a vague something revolutionary someday.

So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?

I could claim that a Faraday is on my team when the venture capitalists ask questions…

Hobbie

@Pavel said in AI Megathread:

So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?

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Pavel

@Hobbie said in AI Megathread:

@Pavel said in AI Megathread:

So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?

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