AI Megathread
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I just desperately want a solid science / math AI to do something newsworthy, like invent a 3d printer resin with no toxic fumes, or cure a disease. I feel like by the time that comes around, people are going to distrust AI in general so much that they just ignore it. I can see it now:
Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets
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@Trashcan said in AI Megathread:
Most people would feel badly upon finding out that someone accused of using AI had not, in fact, used AI, in the same way that all false accusations garner empathy if they are disproved.
Just to touch on this note a little, without directly correcting you in particular: While it’s true that most people would feel bad upon finding out it was a false accusation, I imagine that actually finding that out would be extraordinarily difficult. The lie, or false accusation in this case, being halfway around the world before the truth has even gotten its pants on. With the additional problem being that any ‘evidence’ offered to the contrary would likely be deemed insufficient or an additional lie. So making those accusations should be done with utmost care and the expectation of being wrong, if they’re made at all.
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@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:
Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets
That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…
Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.
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@Third-Eye Agreed. I recall reading somewhere that an AI program could detect the very, very, very early stages of some kinds of cancers far more quickly and consistently than a human. That’s the sort of thing AI should be used for, not art.
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@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:
@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:
Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets
That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…
Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.
And to say this (bolded part) is beyond ironic is a colossal understatement. How much money would be saved having a properly trained AI do the work of what would otherwise be thousands of data analysts? Part of the point of an AI is to be able to do the things a human cannot do, because a computer’s speed is significantly higher.
AI has potential, but oh boy are “we” more determined to churn out slop than quality with it, right now.
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@Pavel said in AI Megathread:
@Third-Eye Agreed. I recall reading somewhere that an AI program could detect the very, very, very early stages of some kinds of cancers far more quickly and consistently than a human. That’s the sort of thing AI should be used for, not art.
There is research like that in the medical spaces, but that’s not the GenAI that this thread is complaining about. Those are specialized machine learning algorithms. “AI” is such an overbroad term, it’s like saying “the internet” and encompassing everything from 4chan to AP News.
@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:
That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…
Actually, ChatGPT and most of the other GenAI platforms are a huge money pit. Ed Zitron writes about this a lot (example). The investors keep buying the hype that it’ll do a vague something revolutionary someday.
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@Faraday said in AI Megathread:
The investors keep buying the hype that it’ll do a vague something revolutionary someday.
So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?
I could claim that a Faraday is on my team when the venture capitalists ask questions…
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@Pavel said in AI Megathread:
So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?
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@Hobbie said in AI Megathread:
@Pavel said in AI Megathread:
So if I reskin a chatgpt interface and “hire” some “researchers” I also get money?
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@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:
wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.
This is what I do for a living.
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@Trashcan said in AI Megathread:
What most people are expressing is the desire for transparency, to know if AI was used to create the content they are engaging with in the MU* space, and if there was more of that, I expect there would be less false accusations to go along with it.
There’s even a real-world example of this! That one Ares L&L game that used AI and was quickly called out for not disclosing it.
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@Third-Eye said in AI Megathread:
@MisterBoring said in AI Megathread:
Science AI model releases an open source schematic for a water powered drive system for cars that gets 450 miles to a gallon of water and can drive at freeway speeds. crickets
That’s not driving advertising dollars and making anyone’s money. ChatGPT does…somehow…
Honestly, I see a lot of promise in narrowly-tailored AI designed to wade through data and do pattern-recognition, but that’s not atm a money-maker for anyone.
This is already being done? There are many companies who use AI tools for data sorting and pattern recognition. It came out a few years ago in the public accounting space and is used for “efficiency” - we were forced to utilize these tools after the company I previously worked for dropped hundreds of thousands of dollars in creating it. When I was using it, it was more trouble than it’s worth but it’s definitely a thing.
AI is a big topic right now in business circles, specifically around data sorting. I’m not sure why you think it’s not a money maker? It’s a huge topic of conversation and it is concerning for me in particular as a CPA because eventually AI will be able to do a lot of what I currently do.
ETA because I don’t actually understand the comment. Who is it not a money-maker for anyone to? The people who design the AI and are going to make HEAPS of money implementing it in the businesses they go to? The people who are currently working in data analytics, finance and other data-driven fields who will eventually be replaced by robots? I mean damn near every day I am inundated with Linkedin requests and cold calls trying to peddle their AI-driven accounts payable programs or credit card such-and-such or financial statement reporting programs. My whole executive team was tasked with determining their AI spend for the next year. It’s a huge, big deal that could impact many, many lives.
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@bear_necessities said in AI Megathread:
It’s a huge topic of conversation
In your circles. It’s not part of the general zeitgeist, so it’s easily missed or ignored.
90% of conversation about “AI” isn’t about anything actually useful, it’s about this generative nonsense, so it’s easy to make the assumption that that’s where 90% of the money is going.
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@Pavel said in AI Megathread:
In your circles. It’s not part of the general zeitgeist, so it’s easily missed or ignored.
I actually can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. The world of finance and business is not exactly my small little circle here.
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@bear_necessities said in AI Megathread:
The world of finance and business is not exactly my small little circle here.
Many of the applications is fin/biz are using specific Machine Learning, rather than Generative AI. Whole different ballgame.
Though there certainly are some crappy GenAI uses (replacing blog post writers with shallow slop, replacing customer service agents with unhelpful bots, and the like), this is not a big profit center for anyone. OpenAI lost 5 billion last year while making only 3.7 billion in revenue. 3.7b is certainly not chump change for us normal folk, but for a megacorp like that it’s pitiful and unsustainable. In contrast, for example, Apple made 95 billion in the fourth quarter alone.
