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    • helveticaH
      helvetica @Narson
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      @Narson said in Bannings:

      @Roz Typo. It is The Froge. It’s the new cool @hellfrog nightclub where everyone wears a frog mask and commits insane acts of bullying terrorism in DMs. The downstairs moshpit.

      This sounds like a mad lib.

      Street Cred

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      • PavelP
        Pavel @IoleRae
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        @IoleRae said in Bannings:

        @Narson

        I lost a twenty year friendship over this bullshit, and I’m probably never going to get over it.

        Yeah, but you said a nice thing about me so I’m probably going to live off that high for another decade or so.

        He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
        BE AN ADULT

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        • IoleRaeI
          IoleRae @Narson
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          @Narson

          I was trying to express solidarity, and think I missed the mark! Thank you, though. It IS hurtful, and it sucks. But I also realized I’ve gotten myself another ACTUAL FRIEND these last couple of years because of this mess, so I’ll be okay.

          @Pavel

          You act like you don’t know I adore you.

          the entity previously known as Sunny

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          • SnacknessS
            Snackness @Narson
            last edited by

            @Narson Goin’ to The Froge tonight.

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            • EvilgraysonE
              Evilgrayson @IoleRae
              last edited by

              @IoleRae Not just you, I promise.

              Not just you.

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              • helveticaH
                helvetica @Snackness
                last edited by

                @Snackness said in Bannings:

                @Narson Goin’ to The Froge tonight.

                I’m picturing the like red-light district cathouse they lure Beetlejuice with

                Street Cred

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                • hellfrogH
                  hellfrog @Narson
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                  @Narson said in Bannings:

                  @Roz Typo. It is The Froge. It’s the new cool @hellfrog nightclub where everyone wears a frog mask and commits insane acts of bullying terrorism in DMs. The downstairs moshpit.

                  I do literally all my bullying out in the open. I hate DMs

                  fr fr
                  (she/her)

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                    Testament @IoleRae
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                    @IoleRae said in Bannings:

                    @Narson

                    I lost a twenty year friendship over this bullshit, and I’m probably never going to get over it.

                    For whatever it is worth, you were one of the very few people who reached to me when I was at my lowest point when all this shit kicked off. When I went emotionally off the deep end.

                    You helped me in way that perhaps only one or two others did or even bothered to do when I was struggling far more than I’d like to admit.

                    I’m sorry you lost someone close to you.

                    I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                    • IoleRaeI
                      IoleRae @Testament
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                      @Testament

                      I think that’s one of the kindest things anybody has said to me in a long time. Thank you for telling me, and I’m so glad I was able to help. I’m even MORE glad that things are going better for you, and super excited for your October 8th. Almost as excited as I am about SPACE PICTURES.

                      the entity previously known as Sunny

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                        eye8urcake
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                        So, even though (or maybe because?) I wasn’t really part of the mass forced exodus from MSB, I’m going to make a couple of observations about why this topic is probably more healthy than not.

                        1. One of the major problems I keep hearing in the posts of the people grieving the loss of their community and long-time friends is that the bans and breaking of MSB leaves them needing a proactive way and place to vent, which this has become. As opposed to a serious tail-chasing ‘fuck MSB in its neck’, what I’m seeing (YMMV) is more like ‘fuck MSB for banning me for engaging in conversations in the very same way I/we/they had for literally years’. This seems to be leading to conversations even within the thread that hash out how setting out different behavioral and engagement expectations will form a healthier community, and I think that’s a good evolution.

                        2. As a person who has… I want to say two? maybe three?.. solid, 30+ year old grudges, against family members to boot, that I just can’t seem to let go of and that have absolutely shaped me and my perceptions and interactions as an adult, in hindsight I realize if I’d been able to pop the zit (so to speak) of those relationships with other people of different levels of empathy and perspective, I’d be a better, healthier person with far less conflict under my belt. I think this thread is those people popping their collective zits, which may be carrying a gross metaphor too far but which I think, in the end, will actually minimize the amount of resentment people who feel that they have been persecuted, bullied and defamed out of their community. That’s a win for this forum, and their/our future interactions, period.

                        So, I mean, TL;DR - while wallowing too deeply in anger, insult, and bad feels for too long isn’t going to be cathartic but detrimental, a benefit having other people who went through the same thing coming to build the new community acknowledging what actions led to the necessity of the splinter and what about the construction of the original community led to that is a net gain for everybody.

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                        • ArkandelA
                          Arkandel @eye8urcake
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                          I don’t want to take sides. And I have received a number of messages on Discord asking me to. It’s not my place to do so any more.

                          But I will say this. It’s made me a bit sad. For a very long time I enjoyed the idea of a single forum open to everyone in the hobby where we could all either speak our minds or - worst case scenario - be able to coexist with those we didn’t like.

                          Now the community seems fractured. Hopefully it is a problem that will fix itself.

                          So… I am still sad about this state of affairs. When I was part of the hobby I worked hard to ensure it doesn’t come to this. I suppose it’s what it is.

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                          • JennkrystJ
                            Jennkryst
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                            @Arkandel I, for one, would like someone to explain how you were not banned for speaking twice after the ‘DO NOT SPEAK’ threat, yet @Narson was banned for speaking just once… specifically asking why you were immune to the VERY CLEAR AND TOTALLY JUSTIFIED AND FAIR DECISION THAT ANYONE WHO SPOKE WAS TO BE BANNED.

                            If that’s taking sides… I dunno. I was banned for supposedly requesting it, without the chance to clarify what my post meant. It is what it is.

                            Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                            She/her

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                            • ArkandelA
                              Arkandel @Jennkryst
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                              @Jennkryst I suspect you know the answer to that question.

                              But if you are asking me, you’re asking the wrong person.

                              For the record, I barely read the thread (or most un-fun threads 🙂 ) to even know what was going on until well after the fact, and was confused at first about why it’d be an issue to post on it at all.

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                              • JennkrystJ
                                Jennkryst @Arkandel
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                                @Arkandel The ‘someone explain’ wasn’t meant to be directed at you to explain, and yeah, we all know why.

                                I just think it would be funny if you, specifically, pointed out the hypocrisy of it. Or maybe not, I dunno, it’s hot at work and I’m annoyed at how easy it is that I’m getting worked up over all this shit again.

                                Also, the catharsis of getting one of them to state it plainly would be amazing.

                                Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                                She/her

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                                • IoleRaeI
                                  IoleRae @Jennkryst
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jennkryst

                                  That’s really not a fair request to make of him, he’s stated he doesn’t want to pick a side.

                                  the entity previously known as Sunny

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                                  • Third EyeT
                                    Third Eye @Arkandel
                                    last edited by Third Eye

                                    @Arkandel said in Bannings:

                                    Now the community seems fractured. Hopefully it is a problem that will fix itself.

                                    I do think it’ll sort itself out in time. We’ve all been through lots of cycles on these many MU boards and for better or worse this doesn’t feel too different to me than the way the other ones came to be over the years. Not that it doesn’t bum me out, it’s a very niche hobby and having users scattered sucks just in terms of ease of use if nothing else, and the I feel for folks who’ve had actual strained or damaged personal relationships. It has been cool to see old names pop up here, though, you among them.

                                    I’m not personally looking for any rhyme or reason to the bannings that went down in that thread, I doubt I’d find any answers I got non-aggravating anyway even if the MSB mods want to give them someday, so. So it goes.

                                    I want something else to get me through this
                                    Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                                    I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

                                    She/Her or They/Them

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                                    • tsarT
                                      tsar
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                                      shine lamp on @Arkandel like old school detective show

                                      And why weren’t YOU banned, hmmmmmm?

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                                        eye8urcake @tsar
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                                        @tsar said in Bannings:

                                        shine lamp on @Arkandel like old school detective show

                                        And why weren’t YOU banned, hmmmmmm?

                                        columbo just one question

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                                        • JennkrystJ
                                          Jennkryst @IoleRae
                                          last edited by

                                          @IoleRae said in Bannings:

                                          @Jennkryst

                                          That’s really not a fair request to make of him, he’s stated he doesn’t want to pick a side.

                                          This is fair, and I should clarify: I am not asking @Arkandel to actually do it.

                                          But I am definitely implying that I would do a little chaos goblin laugh and/or dance if he chose to do it on his own.

                                          Mummy Pun? MUMMY PUN!
                                          She/her

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                                          • helveticaH
                                            helvetica @Jennkryst
                                            last edited by helvetica

                                            I was going to say something along the lines of… it might be worth something for @Arkandel to use whatever leverage they seem to have (they obviously want you around!) to ask those questions but like… that’d be fruitless.

                                            My own ban was lifted because my comment calling Gany unhinged was deemed reasonable under the circumstances. Which in itself seems like a pretty glaring admission. There’s not much logic to follow there anymore besides the trail of people being highly emotional and reactive, and with good reason given how everything played out irl.

                                            The rationalizations to keep the bans in place came after the fact and from someone else entirely. With a pretty clear agenda.

                                            I think it already has sorted itself out? That’s just not our home, anymore. And just so I don’t end this response on such a sad note: I really like our new home, and I really like our new stepmoms.

                                            Street Cred

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