Liberation MUSH
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@Pacha said in Liberation MUSH:
Interesting further info, for those following along:
lmao
Flips out and rage quits that Discord server for his friend not being able to make a transphobic ‘joke’ that multiple people were offended by.
Flips out and rage quits Liberation for someone he dislikes making a very clearly sarcastic unoffensive joke about kinfolk.
Is this dude for real?
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I’ve known Theno for a very long time. We don’t get along overly well, but I trust him to be professional about the important stuff.
He’s many things, but he ain’t Polk.
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@Evilgrayson I mean, Theno got kicked off of MSB staff back in the day for abusing his access to private user information. I wouldn’t trust him with important stuff.
Although I do think he gets a ton of mileage from being “the WoD code guy” and agree that he’d be less likely to do this specific thing Polk did, if only for the sake of his reputation.
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@catzilla said in Liberation MUSH:
@Pacha said in Liberation MUSH:
Interesting further info, for those following along:
lmao
Flips out and rage quits that Discord server for his friend not being able to make a transphobic ‘joke’ that multiple people were offended by.
Flips out and rage quits Liberation for someone he dislikes making a very clearly sarcastic unoffensive joke about kinfolk.
Is this dude for real?
disagree it wasn’t an offensive joke. It was backwards and deeply unfunny, which is the most offensive thing a joke can be.
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@hellfrog said in Liberation MUSH:
@catzilla said in Liberation MUSH:
@Pacha said in Liberation MUSH:
Interesting further info, for those following along:
lmao
Flips out and rage quits that Discord server for his friend not being able to make a transphobic ‘joke’ that multiple people were offended by.
Flips out and rage quits Liberation for someone he dislikes making a very clearly sarcastic unoffensive joke about kinfolk.
Is this dude for real?
disagree it wasn’t an offensive joke. It was backwards and deeply unfunny, which is the most offensive thing a joke can be.
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@catzilla said in Liberation MUSH:
@Pacha said in Liberation MUSH:
Interesting further info, for those following along:
lmao
Flips out and rage quits that Discord server for his friend not being able to make a transphobic ‘joke’ that multiple people were offended by.
Flips out and rage quits Liberation for someone he dislikes making a very clearly sarcastic unoffensive joke about kinfolk.
Is this dude for real?
I think he stopped worrying about people seeing his hypocrisy a long time ago. Values and integrity aren’t worth nearly as much as weaponizing outrage. It seemed like he’s been waiting to use something to try to take Theno down a peg and he wasn’t really getting anything. So he grasped for the first thing that seemed to be viable.
He took his shot at Theno and missed. I guess weaponized outrage doesn’t have the accuracy or damage that it used to. The stats on that might need to be updated in errata.
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@Roz The times I’ve interacted with Theno as staff in the past, there were occasional ironic jokes and some sarcasm, but that kind of thing doesn’t bother me. No bad interactions on the level of what we saw recently.
It’s surprising to me and somewhat alarming that they would misuse player info though. What happened? I thought Theno is the one that started/owned MSB back in the day after the WORA days.
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@Cygnus I don’t know anything about Theno other than his name attached to WoD code stuff. Others have mentioned he’s not so great?
What’s the issue with him?
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@Roz said in Liberation MUSH:
Theno got kicked off of MSB staff back in the day for abusing his access to private user information.
@catzilla this, which I’ve not heard before tonight
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@Cygnus said in Liberation MUSH:
@Roz The times I’ve interacted with Theno as staff in the past, there were occasional ironic jokes and some sarcasm, but that kind of thing doesn’t bother me. No bad interactions on the level of what we saw recently.
It’s surprising to me and somewhat alarming that they would misuse player info though. What happened? I thought Theno is the one that started/owned MSB back in the day after the WORA days.
Exactly what she said. He used his admin privs at MSB to look at hidden info so he could talk shit about it/ a poster.
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@hellfrog said in Liberation MUSH:
He used his admin privs at MSB to look at hidden info so he could talk shit about it/ a poster.
That’s a really weird thing to do; it’s not like there’s much info that’s collected. I sure couldn’t have used any of it to talk shit about anyone.
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@Pavel it was the era of downvotes, when no one could see who specifically had downvoted them. Except admin.
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@hellfrog Aaah, right. Still weird, just makes sense now.
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@Cygnus said in Liberation MUSH:
I thought Theno is the one that started/owned MSB back in the day after the WORA days.
Theno worked alongside EmmahSue and Glitch. Glitch is the one who actually got the forums up and running w ES. Theno joined them very, very early on.
Glitch actually is the one providing our domain for BMD and helped me debug a launch issue getting BMD up. He has long been a more or less quiet community backbone.
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@Tez who is also an amazing person who works with code and other things and not once in the entire time I’ve mushed have I ever heard acting in any kind of condescending or unethical or even unkind way!
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@mietze Yeah. I hope his ears are burning.
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I mean, Theno is as close to a brother as I have so take my word with a grain of salt. But I trust him with literally everything. He genuinely cares about the communities he supports. Yeah, he can be a little awkward but I have never-ever seen him be out right malicious.
I’m going to need more details on what happened on MSB to have my opinion changed. From what I’ve gleaned from the past few posts he looked at who downvoted someone else to gossip about someone? Your posts are coming off as if you’d expect him to dox someone or like he has doxed someone. There is a clear distinction between looking at meaningless downvotes and taking down an entire game because of personality clashes.
ETA: Also, I’ve edited and re-written this post multiple times, b/c I feel really awkward jumping in here. As mentioned Thenomain is one of my oldest friends and really important to me as a friend. But that does not mean I don’t respect that Roz and HF have their opinion of him or will stop being friends with them b/c of it. But I am an awkward duck and I really hope I’m not coming across as “like my friend or we’re not friends anymore”.
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@hellfrog said in Liberation MUSH:
@Pavel it was the era of downvotes, when no one could see who specifically had downvoted them. Except admin.
Snarking downvotes? Meh. That doesn’t rate, but that’s my own personal opinion. On its own its tame. In comparison to the kind of stuff encountered regularly on games and on here, it isn’t even a drop in the bucket.
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@Cobalt hey, fyi, i like theno too and while others don’t, i can also respect their experiences. it’s ok to not like people your friends like and vice versa. i hope.
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Sorry, I just woke up properly and see I left a mess. I’m sorry for kind of tossing it off flippantly there and making it sound more serious or salacious than intended. The full gist is that he had a grudgewank against a particular user and more or less followed them around on their posts to grudgewank. It included looking at what posts the user was downvoting (which at the time only staff could see) as fuel for the grudgewank. He was told to stop continually poking at this user and replying to all their stuff and he didn’t. No, he wasn’t doxxing anybody. That combined with witnessing instances where he just couldn’t really regulate his responses or take feedback means that I wouldn’t trust him on staff, which was what I was trying to say. I wouldn’t trust either him or Polk on staff.
@Cobalt – I absolutely have no intention of trying to change your opinion! He is your fam and that’s totally fine. I’m saying I wouldn’t personally feel good about him on staff on a game. We’re good.