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    Why is Pack closing?

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    • L. B. HeuschkelL
      L. B. Heuschkel @bear_necessities
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      @bear_necessities I’m going to second that. If somebody is being that bloody awful, maybe it’s best to give the rest of us a heads-up in case we inherit the problem now. 😕

      Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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      • CobaltC
        Cobalt
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        I really don’t want to get into the details publicly because the content was pretty triggering. I will say it involved what would have been rape and then extreme IC gaslighting in the follow up. On top of a bunch of OOC drama.

        If any game runner wants to speak with me privately, I can share more details and discuss what I know of the people involved-- these are not people with ares handles linked.

        Cobalt@Under the Stars
        cob.alt@Discord
        Cobalt#[email protected]

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        • L. B. HeuschkelL
          L. B. Heuschkel @Cobalt
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          @Cobalt Bloody hell. That sounds terrible.

          Not going to lie, I hope whoever that was decides to stay the hell off our game.

          Any pronouns. Come to Chincoteague. We have ponies. http://keys.aresmush.com

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          • TezT
            Tez Administrators @Cobalt
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            @Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

            I really don’t want to get into the details publicly because the content was pretty triggering. I will say it involved what would have been rape and then extreme IC gaslighting in the follow up. On top of a bunch of OOC drama.

            If any game runner wants to speak with me privately, I can share more details and discuss what I know of the people involved-- these are not people with ares handles linked.

            In a word: holy fuck. Of course that’s the kind of person who wouldn’t link their ares handle, tho.

            she/they

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            • allthecookiesA
              allthecookies
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              Thank you @Cobalt for the great stories and theme. I played on Pack and enjoyed my time, but when parts of the community become caustic and toxic it’s wise to step back.

              Take good care of yourself and good luck with your RL move!

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              • Third EyeT
                Third Eye
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                Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                I want something else to get me through this
                Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                I want something else, I'm not listening when you say good-bye

                She/Her or They/Them

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                • SpaceKhomeiniS
                  SpaceKhomeini @Third Eye
                  last edited by SpaceKhomeini

                  @Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

                  Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                  50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

                  That’s not saying this is the proper solution or anyone (especially Cobalt and whoever was on the receiving end of these peoples’ shit) should have to put up with or deal with this. I just couldn’t have made it this far.

                  I woke up feeling so good, I think I’d better call in sick/ I need a personal trainer to help me hold my drink
                  I plan to be spontaneous next time we meet/I’m putting off procrastinating until next week
                  I’ll get onto it when I give a shit

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                  • HerjaH
                    Herja
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                    I really hate the people in this hobby that ruin shit for everyone. I’m also so sorry that you have had to deal with this situation. This is the part of staffing a game that can be absolutely soul crushing.

                    lol lmao

                    It's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me

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                    • KarmaBumK
                      KarmaBum
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                      Sorry this is how it turned out, @Cobalt. Hope you find someplace to play that you enjoy!

                      On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                        Bessarion
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                        I know that the game attracted at least one known problem player from past WoD games and I’m pissed that people couldn’t just… not. It was a great game with a lot of potential.

                        I am/was tek. If this means something to you, do as you see fit with this knowledge.

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                        • CobaltC
                          Cobalt @KarmaBum
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                          @KarmaBum That is the thing that I think is the issue. It was too similar to a WoD theme. WoD itself attracts a lot of predatory people because it is a game about being predators.

                          Cobalt@Under the Stars
                          cob.alt@Discord
                          Cobalt#[email protected]

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                            Gasboy @Cobalt
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                            @Cobalt That’s horrible. 😞 Always with the bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us.

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                              Testament @SpaceKhomeini
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                              @SpaceKhomeini said in Why is Pack closing?:

                              @Third-Eye said in Why is Pack closing?:

                              Ugh this sucks. It’s a game people really seemed to be responding to, but I definitely get opting out of the bullshit. The Worst people ruin things for everyone.

                              50% why I don’t run a game – I’d just get drunk and ban people in the night.

                              I mean, that’s more or less what I do.

                              I don't know what I'm doing. Poke at Seven Nations sevennations.aresmush.com port 2021

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                                Bessarion @Testament
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                                @Testament I mean, it’s what I did with the one guy I’ve had to ban so far. He got a warning before I went to bed. I woke up to reported conversations that showed he had not even listened a little bit. YEET.

                                I am/was tek. If this means something to you, do as you see fit with this knowledge.

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                                • KarmaBumK
                                  KarmaBum @Cobalt
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                                  @Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place. 😞

                                  On Dragon Wings · https://pern.gaslightswitch.com · pern.gaslightswitch.com port 4201

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                                  • IoleRaeI
                                    IoleRae
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                                    Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, I’m so sorry.

                                    the entity previously known as Sunny

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                                    • CobaltC
                                      Cobalt @KarmaBum
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                                      @KarmaBum said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                      @Cobalt I think you probably meant to @-someone else, but it is admittedly the reason I never pcreated there. I enjoyed the few times I know of that I played with you over the years, but I am always wary of shifter games in particular. Too many people in WoD took it to a gross, gross place. 😞

                                      Whoops! Yeah, I meant to @ @Bessarion.

                                      But, yeah. I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD. idk, something about the theme just…

                                      shrug

                                      Cobalt@Under the Stars
                                      cob.alt@Discord
                                      Cobalt#[email protected]

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                                        Pyrephox Administrators @Cobalt
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                                        @Cobalt I think having the dom/sub theme that a lot of shifter games tend to have baked in can bring out a lot of the abusive assholes who want to let their inner controlling chucklefuck out while saying “it’s theme!” Both sexually, and just general posturing about how alpha they are.

                                        It’s a real shame, because you make fun themes!

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                                          GF @Cobalt
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                                          @Cobalt said in Why is Pack closing?:

                                          I love the shifter stuff, but I think the setting was just too close WoD.

                                          I doubt it’s to do with the setting being close to any other setting. Weird little creeps will always feel compelled to turn their problems into your problems.

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                                          • PaxP
                                            Pax @GF
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                                            @GF Eh. I like WoD but it definitely brings out the weirdos. It’s usually the vampires being edgelords but say that too loudly and suddenly it’s a competition.

                                            I wish you would.

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