Bannings
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I tried to not walk away from either board (obviously that changed today). I wanted to see the best in both and in some ways I do. This is how I view the situation – also I’m sorry if it triggers someone. I hope you know that’s not my desire.
It’s like a divorce and remarriage. You are the child who’s parents (that you both love) have separated. You may understand it or you might not. Then this new parent comes into the situation with a remarriage (aka admin change). They have a different parenting style. You are still hurting and not sure how to express your trauma. They aren’t helping you work through that or giving you grace. They are demanding you respect them because they are this new parent now. Didn’t you know your other parent is just jealous of them? You need to respect them to earn their respect. They aren’t really meaning to be an evil step-parent, but they have never been one before. They are making a lot of mis-steps. They are making the situation worse by reacting instead of being proactive.
That is how I view all of this.
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how are you ppl doing this “referenced” shit?
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I definitely respond to bad things with sarcastic humor, it’s armor. If I can find some sort of way to laugh at something, then maybe it isn’t that bad or scary or shitty.
My own moral disgust with MSB aside, I would infinitely rather be where there’s joy.
I think dismissing @kalakh’s “cheeks flapping” post as virulent and vile is selling it short. It was creative and clever. It made me laugh.
We’re a hobby of logophiles; I despair for a community that would rob anyone of expressing themselves with a full palette of the English language.
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@kalakh I mean, you are talking about someone who was told that if he wanted to stop being accused of apologising for abusers he should stop apologising for abusers. That person was…
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Oh, the person that hired him onto staff the board.
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Oh, are we unproductively slagging off MSB? Thank god, I’ve been holding this in for hours.
Derp, you condescending shitweasel, how dare you drop your smug, dismissive, clearly-just-to-get-the-last-word “I disagree” and then go off on that childish tangent demanding I take you more seriously than you take me, insisting that I educate you about my private fucking motivations that you do not care about except as they could be convenient ammunition for you to use?
I had paragraphs more written about you, but I deleted it out of pity. Your desperation to cling to the absurdly petty authority of moderating MSB suggests issues I frankly don’t feel like a good person taking you to task for. I hope some day you get help for them, but until you do, seriously fuck off with your dismissive superiority.
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I mean, I get it, irrefutable evidence is a big claim, and this is the guy who argued you can’t hear things over the internet, but this is where he went first, in the middle of a dozen people who actually played on Arx remarking about the dude setting off creep meters. Other folks expressed interest in the details, because that’s natural, but derp’s the only one who immediately went to ‘but what if it’s fake’ about a banning on a game he doesn’t play and a situation he knew nothing about.
When all t his started with Gany, my initial reaction was ‘lawyers should never be staff’. I’ve since expanded that to judges, politicians, and maybe cops.
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I mean, I get it, irrefutable evidence is a big claim, and this is the guy who argued you can’t hear things over the internet, but this is where he went first, in the middle of a dozen people who actually played on Arx remarking about the dude setting off creep meters. Other folks expressed interest in the details, because that’s natural, but derp’s the only one who immediately went to ‘but what if it’s fake’ about a banning on a game he doesn’t play and a situation he knew nothing about.
When all t his started with Gany, my initial reaction was ‘lawyers should never be staff’. I’ve since expanded that to judges, politicians, and maybe cops.
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It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.
Derp should have done the right thing and stepped aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.
Ganymede should have done the right thing and asked him to step aside when it became obvious how upset so many of us were.
The misplaced trust in Ganymede over the years compiled by the smug crowing imagined in the background by that tiresome manchild…
It still stings.
So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.
They won’t.
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@TNP not to #notalllawyers, but SOME of us think a court of law is the worst possible analogy for a hobby where no rights are at stake, only privileges.
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So that’s why I’m still reading, even though I know I shouldn’t. I’ll grow out of it soon.
honestly, i think i need to force myself out of it now. i’ve said my peace. as derp says, they have the receipts. anyone can look at anything i posted and decide how they feel they wish to characterize it.
reading over and over broad strokes that mischaracterize me, i feel, just makes me upset each time and is bad for my mental health. And my BPD, as i once explained on MSB, but i do need to take responsibility for my own mental health.
i’m not judging anyone here, obvs! or there. idc. i am just explaining why i am suddenly going to stop posting in this thread or upvoting people. take care, guys!
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@Meg No judgment inferred, or offered. Do what you gotta do for your brainmeat. You have our full support.
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@KarmaBum you put it into words. Well done, I couldn’t.
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Since Derp and Ghost keep bringing it up, I’ll repeat a point I’ve made before:
People are going to keep talking about the community being hijacked, because at the end of the day, before any of this happened, any of YOU who feel the need to talk about bullies being mean - YOU could have made your own board, and made it however you wanted.
Instead, you decided to change the rules of the board we were all on and throw anyone who disagreed out. Which is the root of it all. And you know it. Because you keep bringing up how we went somewhere else and made the rules we wanted.
And it’s pretty fucked up how you keep rewriting history to justify the decision.
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It’s really hard to explain how much of this is because… honestly… Derp is such a mansplainy little turd, that it is hard to swallow that he “wins.” He and Ganymede essentially have the keys to our shared history. And it hurts to think of losing that (for the 4th time?) because of this narrow-minded little man who doesn’t have the common decency to yield to the will of the community he was supposed to be entrusted to oversee.
This is the only part that genuinely bothers me about The State of MSB now, especially given Gany’s reluctance to give an uninvolved party copies of it to even archive, but the house is hers now and she’ll do with it what she will.
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[derp on breccan, take two:]
OK, let me add more than moral disgust.
‘There’s no such thing as irrefutable evidence,’ says a guy who expects irrefutable evidence, in order for the banning, ostracisation, or public naming and shaming of a predator to be considered valid.
So in other words, it’s never valid. Why not just say that?
Why not just admit you’re setting women up for a no-win scenario, the outcome of which — or preferably prior conclusion of — should be for them to just shut up.
Fuck you, Derp, profoundly, from the bottom of my soul. I actually hadn’t seen this stuff before and was aware of only the most recent reasons why people quite rightly call you a misogynist.
I don’t care if you’re pro-choice and voted for Hillary Clinton; this is less than the absolute bare minimum of allyship.
