MU Peeves Thread

Pyrephox

My thing about OOC Rooms is how weird some people act in them. I’m not going to list them because with all the fights we’ve been having on this board lately, I don’t want anyone to feel called out, but I don’t mind vaguebooking about some minor annoyances from days past.

OOC rooms can be weird and toxic in a way that public channels often aren’t. (Sometimes channels can be Just As Bad, but I see it happen more often in OOC rooms.)

Livia

I hang out in OOC rooms a lot because I just like chatting to people. It helps me feel some sense of community on the game, and I enjoy that? But yeah, sometimes they get weird.

Pyrephox

@Livia said in MU Peeves Thread:

I hang out in OOC rooms a lot because I just like chatting to people. It helps me feel some sense of community on the game, and I enjoy that? But yeah, sometimes they get weird.

I enjoy the community too, and they CAN be good things. I actually really liked the way Ares will echo the OOC room chatter to a public channel. It seems to help with some of the toxicity potential (some!) and also lets me participate in chatter even when I’m in a scene.

Tez

@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:

and also lets me participate in chatter even when I’m in a scene.

This, right here. THAT BIT. That is basically everything that drives me nuts about OOC rooms. Why would you ever make people choose between engaging in the community and RPing?!

Meg

@Selira A whole lot of us put our top points into intelligence and perception. We are all very intelligent and perceptive! The lot of us!

That’s why trying to hide who you are and change handles is us-- you know, it doesn’t actually usually work out. People know.

Pavel

I don’t usually use OOC Rooms (I prefer to idle in quiet rooms, if I bother staying connected at all), but it would feel odd if there weren’t one there. I dunno if that’s sufficient reason to want them kept, though.

hellfrog

@Meg said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Selira A whole lot of us put our top points into intelligence and perception. We are all very intelligent and perceptive! The lot of us!

That’s why trying to hide who you are and change handles is us-- you know, it doesn’t actually usually work out. People know.

It’s just like people getting back together after a breakup. If something significant hasn’t changed, the same problems are still there.

You CAN change handles and get a fresh start. But you have to actually be, you know, not behaving in whatever patterns people started to associate with that handle you’re escaping. That takes some serious self-reflection at the least.

Pavel

@hellfrog Additionally, if you do want to change handles… it’s probably best not to immediately associate that new handle with the same character and RP style.

Snackness

@Pavel Annnd behavior pattern!

ETA: @hellfrog already said that. Dammit.

Pyrephox

foksthery said in MU Peeves Thread:

@bear_necessities your friend is a fucking gaslighter who was really weird to me elseMU to the point where being on the same game as them made me super anxious and I was doing my best to respect their boundaries and drove myself batty. I should have left on my own. That was on me. You were right to boot me. No quarrel there.

I’ve removed the ‘at’ for foksthery because she’s said she’s not reading the forum anymore, and it doesn’t seem fair to ping her.

However, by context, it’s pretty clear that she’s referring to me, here. Because the previous incident of me being “really weird” and “gaslighting” her is on MSB, I’m going to summarize it here, in case those things go away from MSB at some point. You can find the details - including quotes of logs - on MSB if you care to.

The previous game was The Network. I was playing a character with wings, her character indicated that she was going to take his feathers without permission to put in her pillows. I OOCly mentioned that I found that a bit creepy, she said she didn’t care, her character was doing it, and I just decided not to argue about it. Later, a couple of people were making jokes about stealing my character’s feathers, and I asked people to stop - I freely admit it’s a stupid thing to get weirded out about, but it just hit me wrong and I didn’t want it to be a running joke. She said something about not realizing it upset me, I pointed out that I’d mentioned that in the scene.

She paged me with this big, anxious apology, and followed up with something like, by the way, don’t ever call my character ‘exotic’ again. Then vagueposted on MSB about it. Problem was, I’d never done that - and it being an Ares game, I had the logs to prove it. She tried to backpedal about how it wasn’t about me, so I pointed out that there’s no logs backing up the idea that anyone had done so. At which point she broke down, apologized (almost exactly like her apology earlier in this thread) and I figured it was over.

Later game, Santa Rosalia, I realized she was on the game. I had advertised for a play group I was putting together, and she signed up. I reached out to her, let her know who I was (I don’t have an Ares handle), and that I really prefer not to run anything for her or play with her. She was very understanding, and we avoided each other from then on. I gave a head’s up to staff so that they wouldn’t put us in any GMed scenes together if it could be avoided. I genuinely thought that was the end of it, and didn’t much think about her after that.

So, that’s the story, as far as I know and understand it. Whether I’m manipulative or a gaslighter, I guess I leave to everyone else to decide.

Snackness

@Pyrephox And that is why I laughed in her face.

hellfrog

@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:

So, that’s the story, as far as I know and understand it. Whether I’m manipulative or a gaslighter, I guess I leave to everyone else to decide.

I have decided.

Pavel

@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:

I guess I leave to everyone else to decide.

The clique will meet shortly to decide your fate.

Pyrephox

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:

I guess I leave to everyone else to decide.

The clique will meet shortly to decide your fate.

If I am to be executed, I request that it be done properly. Rifles at dawn.

Wizz

@Pyrephox

Why is it never cannons, or mortar shell??? If I had to go out that way, I’d want it to be metal as hell and get O B L I T E R A T E D

Pyrephox

@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pyrephox

Why is it never cannons, or mortar shell??? If I had to go out that way, I’d want it to be metal as hell and get O B L I T E R A T E D

…okay, fair point. Getting blown away by a cannon at close range would be a very metal way of going out.

helvetica

@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pyrephox said in MU Peeves Thread:

I guess I leave to everyone else to decide.

The clique will meet shortly to decide your fate.

after some deliberation, @Pyrephox … shantay, you stay.

Pavel

@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Pyrephox

Why is it never cannons, or mortar shell??? If I had to go out that way, I’d want it to be metal as hell and get O B L I T E R A T E D

That is an execution method in North Korea, I believe.

ETA: Additionally, “blowing from a gun” is… well worth a read.

Wizz

@Pavel

Oof. “Often resulting in death” is never what you want to hear.

Pavel

@Wizz I dunno, I’ve had a cannon or two blow my back out without resulting in death…

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