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MU Peeves Thread
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@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:
This may be something that only annoys me,
nope! Seeing messages on channels about how there’s nothing to do is like the non-constructive feedback version of saying you want to RP, in my opinion. “I’m at blah blah area for whoever wants to join,” then hanging out there is way more constructive and could even result in something. Even if no one does and you grumble to yourself about nothing to do, you’re still being proactive. Besides, you might meet someone you didn’t know before.
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@Pavel I literally cannot remember the last time someone who was seeking RP had any idea for a thing they wanted to do, so their request for RP was their way of saying, “I want someone who will do all the work of entertaining me.” I came to really resent it.
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@Pavel Ahh, but ideas come easier when you know who wants to be involved. ‘Who wants to have a scene at X’ might make people who don’t want to go to X just never say anything.
I don’t put the onus on others – I just wait and see who I’m working with before figuring out what to do.
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I will do the lifting to set it all up, I don’t usually mind.
What I mind is the person who says “I want to rp!” and then they say “I don’t know what to do. I don’t have any ideas. What character would you like me to be? LOL!”
At least pick which of YOUR OWN characters you want to be, come on now. I’m not doing that for you.
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@Pavel said in MU Peeves Thread:
This may be something that only annoys me, but if you’re seeking RP… come up with some fucking ideas. “Hey is anyone free to have a scene at X?” is so much better than whatever ‘cute’ thing you want to say instead. Don’t put the onus on others.
This shit drives me nuts.
I think I’m also extra susceptible to being annoyed because I’m running the game I play on most, and constantly starting scenes and running NPCs and stuff, so when someone is like ‘hey let’s rp but you do all the set up work’ I’m just like… no. lol.
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@imstillhere said in MU Peeves Thread:
I will do the lifting to set it all up, I don’t usually mind.
What I mind is the person who says “I want to rp!” and then they say “I don’t know what to do. I don’t have any ideas. What character would you like me to be? LOL!”
At least pick which of YOUR OWN characters you want to be, come on now. I’m not doing that for you.
This is also one of my peeves. I don’t want to choose your alt for you, and the fact that you have asked me to do so kills at least 20 percent of my interest in scening with you, because what it says to ME (whether you mean it that way or not) is that you have no particular ideas or interest in specific character interactions between our two PCs.
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I try not to ask for RP unless I have at least one idea to put on the table.
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Look, I don’t want to make you do all the work, but sometimes, just putting myself out there to ask for rp at all has been the hard part.
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I never have problems coming up with scenarios, I think folks that rp with me will confirm that, but on games I have alts on its not unheard of me to offer either alt based on player pref since I don’t know which one of theirs they might be wanting to either rp because its easier or they are trying to get more time on them and don’t have as much opportunity or that some people’s pcs just are more limited than mine so they’d prefer one over the other.
As someone who is rarely proactively asked to RP and has to do a lot of the asking/arranging if I want to RP it sucks to worry that people are going to judge me for that or they won’t give me a chance because I offered to be flexible but otoh I don’t really have a choice but to brush it off and keep asking if I want to be able to RP.
As an asker there are plenty of people who accept and then don’t know what they want too. Oh anything is good/no not that my pc wouldn’t go there. Its a fine line to dance as an asker because I’m sure those folks get judgy if you don’t come up with the right guess too. When two players agree to rp im not sure I think either one owes the other a greater set up responsibility esp if there wasn’t a specific scene invite. It’s good to touch base to make sure its something that works for both which can be hard for randos so you may have to ask would you prefer the vampire alt or the werelobster?
If I have a strong pref for something specific I solicit that on chan (I’m going to set a scene in X, would anyone like to join me?) But absent that i like to see who I get, look at any aspirations and then might ask them if they have any prefs. I dont think everyone does that but I don’t see it being really abnormal either.
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
so you may have to ask would you prefer the vampire alt or the werelobster?
Werelobster for me every time.
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
Oh anything is good/no not that my pc wouldn’t go there.
Oh, mercy, this one. Angels and ministers of grace defend us, it’s like trying to take C.S. Lewis’ mother-in-law out to lunch. She doesn’t want to be any trouble, so she won’t pick a place, but every place you pick will not do, and you need to activate the orbital mind control lasers to get her to express an opinion besides that your suggestion is wrong. Or worse, she agrees and then, when the waitstaff have already wasted their time on you, admits thats she couldn’t possibly order anything in this place. (Ahh, hooray, they finally agreed to meet my PC at the park! Oh no, now they refuse to pose interactively, and are describing their character having hay-fever and apologizing OOC for how they feel awkward and just don’t know what to do in this scene! @whee!)
Still, I am really a lot cooler with this sort of thing than with that exasperating player whose MO is to chan “I am ready to RP now!” but who also responds to people who say, “Anyone want to scene?” by telling them how unappealing such vague offers are, and that they really have to write a 10 page module-adventure and show everybody the Larry Elmore cover and the blurb on the back or of course nobody’s gonna want to come out.
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
It’s good to touch base to make sure its something that works for both which can be hard for randos so you may have to ask would you prefer the vampire alt or the werelobster?
When I’m of this mind, I like to go, “Want to go line-dancing or something with my vampire alt or get into a brawl with werecrabs with my werelobster alt? Or any ideas you might have for either.”
Because then I’m not setting off the instinctive “Ugh, they don’t know what they want besides me to entertain them” reaction that I totally get and often have, but I’m also offering some flexibility.
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On the one (bigger) hand, I am glad I finally have a steady job. On the other, I miss having more free time!
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I don’t mind the dance of setting up RP, because in the same way I like to tailor my suggestions for location and event to the person who’s responding, mostly because I prefer smaller scenes to setting up an open thing in a location. The thing that does bother me is when people respond to an ask for rp in a way that doesn’t make clear whether they’re actually volunteering for RP in the moment or not. I have mixed feelings about a response that’s “I’m busy now but maybe some other day,” but it’s at least a clear response.
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@Smile said in MU Peeves Thread:
On the one (bigger) hand, I am glad I finally have a steady job. On the other, I miss having more free time!
Corollary: I’m glad I went back to school, but I miss having mental energy to do MU* things. I almost literally can’t focus on traditional* scene pacing anymore. These days I just feel like a cat where I need to be curled up for a nap half the day.
(* as defined by the Ares system)
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When one of my characters theme songs come on my Tidal… and then I go awww 🥰 but then when I remember I can’t play her anymore and I go awwww
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There’s always more nuance than can be expressed in a peeve thread, but I think there’s quite a big difference between someone asking for RP and being willing to hash out a quick and dirty “what are we rping about” where both people are offering up some ideas (and which alt coming might be in the discussion), or even someone saying, “Hey, I would love some RP with you but I really don’t have have any ideas today, does anything come to your mind,” or asking me if I mind setting, and someone who asks for RP and then puts the onus of choosing every single thing about a scene on the other person. The former two are great, and I never mind setting a scene. The latter can quickly become frustrating.
Asking for RP can be really difficult. I also get brain blocks and feel anxiety about putting myself out there into the void. I’ve been on games where I’ve never once gotten a response when I’ve requested on the RP request channel, which of course isn’t unique to me, but it’s always tough and never feels great. But it’s also tough to be asked for RP and then have to come up with everything myself including who the other person is bringing, especially if it’s happening a lot.
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I have SUCH respect for players I know who seem great at scenario generation, which is something I tend to be terrible at. Whenever I end up playing with someone who put in the energy and effort to do that for a scene with me, I try extra hard to bring my biggest YES, AND energy to it. (Also because when you have a cool setting/scenario to jump into, it’s already energizing!)
If I can’t be the ideas person, I try to at least be the one who will run with the ideas.
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When you put a lot of effort into the game you are running with some others, but all of the credit goes to one person. You could speak up, you could let people know how much you do, but the person who is getting the credit is amazing, so you just don’t say anything at all.
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When asking for RP. I (like others) go through a lot of mental taxation without always getting RP representation.
Me: I’d like to play.
Me: I should ask for play.
Me: What if I get silence back?
Me: Does that mean everyone hates me? They might. Maybe I don’t have RP right now because my RP sucks. Should I ask? Would that be invasive to their RL and free time? Does it look like I’m bothering anyone if I ask on channel? Okay, you can do this. Come on. You are fine. Let’s do this. You can do this. Is their char currently involved in anything? Should I ask? Will it mess with their story? What if I get too many people and then I have to bail? Um… no no, it’s okay you can do this.Me: Hey, would you like to RP?
Them: Sure, what do you want to RP?
Me: …
Me: Fuck.So in very long conclusion, it’s not that I want the other person to do the work. It’s more I don’t know what story they like or what they are interested in. If it’s someone I know, then I’m different. Then I’m like let’s RP this. New people though, I’m like wuhoh. Do I only have one shot to make a suggestion and I lose RP partners for life?
