MU Peeves Thread

Gashlycrumb

skipping one for awhile because you aren’t feeling it is an extremely reasonable thing to do.

This is true. But I’m not talking about skipping one for a while. That’s gonna happen.

discourage all would-be game creators who may now believe that someone is always going to be watching them on the +where to decide whether or not they are stretched thin enough.

I’ve said it before, to the disgruntlement of the MuSB readership: If you run a MU that has more than a few hand-picked players, someone will criticise you. If that is gonna fill you with rage, or shame, or anxiety, you should just not run an open-apps game.

@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:

There’s a lot of stuff to consider on staff side too:

Yes, they should honestly be honest with the player and ask them to leave, not waste the player’s time, damage their own temper, or profess that it’s wrong for players to expect GM attention on the same time-scale as other players.
Yes, but I’m not talking about that, for as I said, a player can tell how many +requests have been submitted between two of their own +requests, and even if you’re not trying it’s likely that you will notice that the job number went up a lot since your last +request, or didn’t.
Yep. I would suggest if they’re having a bad year they should take sabbatical. If they’re having a bad month, week, or day, well, yeah, that happens. But players are also people, and they talk to each other, so if you tell them you’re not responsive because bad week but they also heard Abelard talking about the quick and cool response he got that same week, well. Reasonably, they’ll probably think you ran out of steam after you got to Abelard. But when the same thing happens week after week? They have a point.
What? If I have a scheduled appointment, I expect the person to show up. Even if it’s at a weird time. Why the heck is any staffer scheduling something at a time they can’t make?

@MisterBoring said in MU Peeves Thread:

This sounds like something you’ve done yourself. Are you a +where stalker?

It does?

I did once inspire the wrath of VASpider by telling her that yeah, everybody knows from the +where that she’s TSing with Tiny while players are waiting for +requests, and nobody’s saying anything because it’s against MU etiquette, which is how it goes, but for crying out loud, don’t tell the public channel that’s what you’re doing. I am not sure that counts. And it was probably 2003.

@hellfrog Those are valid reasons to ask them to leave, not valid reasons to cheat.

@tsar said in MU Peeves Thread:

But you can’t convince me that running plots on a game is the same responsibility as caring for living, breathing beings in a real caretaking sense.

It’s not, but y’know, they want joy and relief from the absolute horrors and it’s not wrong to be dissapointed, annoyed, or hurt at being shut out when it’s working for others and they can’t figure out why they’re not able to reach the top of the queue.

Pacha

@tsar said in MU Peeves Thread:

But you can’t convince me that running plots on a game is the same responsibility as caring for living, breathing beings in a real caretaking sense.

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to suggest that the two were directly equivalent.

My point is that even if you are “only a volunteer” by volunteering you are still agreeing to be responsible for fulfilling the basic function of the role you have volunteered for.

Pavel

@Pacha A thousand times this.

Volunteer just means a person who has a job, of their own volition, that is unpaid. It’s still a job, and comes with expectations and requirements. Requiring someone to meet those expectations and requirements isn’t unreasonable.

ETA: Some place unreasonably burdensome expectations on their volunteers, but that’s a somewhat different idea to objecting to expectations period.

Yam

@Gashlycrumb Idk how to ask this… does this happen to you frequently? Are you a bit of a chore? I mean I’ve absolutely been a bit of a chore.

Pavel

@Yam I can only aspire to be a chore. Someone eventually does a chore.