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    AI In Poses

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      NotSanni @Yam
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      @Yam said in AI In Poses:

      HOW ARE YOU NOT INSANELY EMBARRASSED ABOUT POSING VIA LLM, WRITING IS LITERALLY THE ENTIRE POINT OF RP WHAT IS GOING ONahhh.jpg

      they aren’t embarrassed bc (in my experience) the kind of people who would use an LLM to write their pose thinks LLMs “writing” is good, and they’re seeking out the quick hit of Good Brain Juice from feeling like they’ve accomplished something

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        hellfrog @NotSanni
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        @NotSanni ok but how are people in this hobby deluded into thinking anyone else will think LLM writing is good? The game in question is not a minecraft server, it’s a real MU with real MUers who have been writing for years.

        fr fr
        (she/her)

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          Muscle Car @hellfrog
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          @hellfrog If they already think the rest of humanity are NPCs then it’s real easy to make the jump to outsourcing their writing to a plagiarism engine.

          Got what you wanted, lost what you had.

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            NotSanni @hellfrog
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            @hellfrog said in AI In Poses:

            @NotSanni ok but how are people in this hobby deluded into thinking anyone else will think LLM writing is good? The game in question is not a minecraft server, it’s a real MU with real MUers who have been writing for years.

            Sometimes I wish I knew, other times I’m glad I don’t have intimate insight into the minds of folks who enjoy LLM generated content. I imagine the most truthful and accurate (and unfun) answer is something very sad about people’s overall mental states and the way their lives are going, especially in relation to the things they enjoy (most people I’ve met don’t spend time examining the media they consume, and tend to assume “If I like X, that must mean X = Objectively Good”, instead of embracing the idea that we can enjoy things that are shitty or mediocre, or that we should take time to think about what we consume).

            Brennan Lee Mulligan said something in an interview, which I’ve come to appreciate (and see as fairly accurate) that I’ll paraphrase: “Most people don’t think. And when they do think, they’re probably not thinking about you”.

            So they probably just aren’t even considering the people they’re engaging with - either (as muscle said) not considering them “real” enough to bother to care about, or just not thinking even a LITTLE BIT about the possibility that other people move through this world and that they should maybe self-examine the way they move through this world and around other people.

            To finish off, I’ll paraphrase Douglas Adams however… “if we knew exactly why the LLM enjoyers had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.”

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              Aria @hellfrog
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              @hellfrog said in AI In Poses:

              @NotSanni ok but how are people in this hobby deluded into thinking anyone else will think LLM writing is good? The game in question is not a minecraft server, it’s a real MU with real MUers who have been writing for years.

              I mean, have you seen some of the shit that’s swept through BookTok and become insanely popular among a crowd of people who ostensibly love the written word and pride themselves on the volume of material they read? I think we may be conflating “I want to consume high quality art” with “I want to be entertained” here and while there is definitely overlap between the two, that Venn diagram is not just a circle.

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                RightMeow
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                I love this hobby because I like writing with a buddy. I like to talk about what happened in scenes, like other people like game highlights in the sportsball. I like the bios of people like others have trading cards with stats. I like trying to decide how I’m going to have my char react when surprised. I like the the chaos of not knowing and the high of a good scene.

                Others, might be in it to write a story and are using prompts? I probably wouldn’t know AI poses to be honest. I think I was stepping away from games when they were getting really big. Maybe not. I am also one of those foolish types that try to see the positive and take things at face value.

                On my couch, where I have all the opinions, I can’t imagine they are getting much out of the scene and I feel bad that they are robbing themselves (and others) from the authentic experience.

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                  Prototart @RightMeow
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                  @RightMeow said in AI In Poses:

                  I can’t imagine they are getting much out of the scene and I feel bad that they are robbing themselves (and others) from the authentic experience.

                  I started doing this when I was like 8 or 9, and I totally sucked but I don’t think even then it would’ve appealed to me to totally fake it that way. The right way to fake it is to just shamelessly imitate somebody you think is really good until somebody else thinks you’re really good and then spend the rest of your life quietly assured one day everybody will realize you’re a total fraud

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                    MisterBoring
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                    This Verge article is very on point for this:

                    https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/967630/dave-eggers-openai-chatgpt-silencing-an-entire-generation

                    Proud Member of the Pro-Mummy Alliance

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                      A10 Rockwell Banned @NotSanni
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                      Chat Gippity is really awful at writing emotes, but that’s mostly because it writes like an HR lady or a shitlib therapist. Claude isn’t much better. This is less an issue with LLMs conceptually and more an issue with the jews who are producing them. Grok is much less censored/retarded and lets you write whatever you want, in the style of any author you like (J.K. Rowling, Andrew Anglin, Anne Rice, Sam Hyde, Stephenie Meyer, or whoever else), and it does a decent enough job. You can always edit the parts out that are stupid before posting, anyway.

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                        Juniper @A10 Rockwell
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                        @A10-Rockwell Are you lost?

                        flared base

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                          Pavel @Juniper
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                          @Juniper They just need to edit the parts out that are stupid before posting.

                          He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.

                          @Faraday said:

                          Pavel is probably right

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                            A10 Rockwell Banned @Juniper
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                            (Offensive junk)

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                              Artemis
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                              idk if I’m posting this bc my rage needs company or a genuine desire to warn people away who might be bad at recognizing LLM-generated content or bc I’m tryna callout, but it seems relevant. I found a game somebody’s working on that is literally completely entirely AI-written. Like i was reading the game info page and felt like i was being tortured by the fbi it is syntactical purgatory please help.
                              https://www.kosmosoft.online/game-info
                              it’s so bad it’s so bad like genuinely what is the point of participating in a writing hobby and building a game within it if you believe that little in your own creativity AAAAAAAAAA
                              rant over, carry on

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                                Pavel @Artemis
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                                @Artemis LLM aside I’m struggling to figure out wtf they’re actually advertising…

                                “Current Windows testing uses MonkeyTerm with a Macrocosm XML connection file” is this what it sounds like when I try to explain using a telnet client?

                                He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.

                                @Faraday said:

                                Pavel is probably right

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                                  Artemis @Pavel
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                                  @Pavel idfk. i can’t tell what type of game it’s supposed to be either, apparently there will be auditory elements or something? dunno if it’s just the way the AI writes but the gameplay sounds boring as shit.

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                                    Jumpscare
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                                    I found this on the character request page.

                                    “Your reply email and any accessibility, communication, or content-boundary information are for private review by Auralae, Dante, and the supporting staff who need it. Never submit a password, server address, port, connection file, private credential, or medical diagnosis.”

                                    What a strange final item on that list.

                                    Game-runner of Silent Heaven, a small-town horror MU.
                                    https://silentheaven.org

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                                      Third Eye
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                                      Their “game info” guide pulled what appears to be a picture of random Meta/Facebook employees to show what kind of character you can play.

                                      The depth of gibberish is kind of amazing, I thought I’d seen some clanker slop before but this is the MOST clanker.

                                      I want something else to get me through this
                                      Semi-charmed kinda life, baby, baby
                                      I want something else, I’m not listening when you say good-bye

                                      She/Her or They/Them

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                                        Pavel @Third Eye
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                                        @Third-Eye said:

                                        the MOST clanker

                                        battle droids GIF by Star Wars

                                        He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.

                                        @Faraday said:

                                        Pavel is probably right

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                                          Tez Administrators
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                                          I’m not convinced a human was involved in this. Are we sure this wasn’t just ChatGPT breaking containment again?

                                          she/they

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                                            Pavel @Tez
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                                            @Tez It’s not breaking containment—it’s a gaming paradigm shift, and that’s okay.

                                            He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.

                                            @Faraday said:

                                            Pavel is probably right

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