AI In Poses
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@Tez are those AI because I’m pretty sure I read all of those in 1999 lol
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@bear_necessities I bet you did! And the AI trained on that 90s writing, too.
It reads AI to me, yes, and pinged as AI on multiple websites that detect AI. Is it? I don’t know.
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AI generated text typically looks at home in a game of Mad Libs which is why it loves words like “exudes”, “exhibits”, “emphasizes”, “highlights” etc. It’s an easy way for AI to get some vaguely related but illustrative nouns in there without actually constructing a pointed sentence. This is how I recognise it most if the time.
I don’t feed things into an LLM and ask it if it thinks something is AI written because that would be stupid.
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@Juniper Someone here nailed it when they called it something like “complex yet somehow boring.”
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I thought about this thread when I was in a scene where someone was clearly struggling to get their point across.
You know the type, the RPer who’s a little bit new and is flailing a bit, has some phonetic typos, and is coming off a bit flat, but they’re very earnest about it.
This thread made me appreciate that they’re clearly putting in the effort to write their own stuff rather than just slamming it into ChatGPT to try to keep up.
Struggle on, new writers. We do see you improving with every session.
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@somasatori said in AI In Poses:
I have a question. What do you get out of MUSHing, a hobby wherein you write paragraphs at people in a turn-based format, when you’re not actually doing the writing? What’s the end goal there?
I’ve had this conversation with more than a few people and one of the most common themes that came up: an experience as close to tabletop gaming as possible, but without being crapped on because of not being able to put out AP English writing or wait 20 minutes per exchange for all the editing.
MU*ers can be catty, judgemental, petty, elitist, etc… to a higher degree than any I’ve ever known, probably to do with internet anonymity, which is one of the reasons the hobby continues to grow smaller and smaller. I’ve never known a community so highly motivated/invested in killing itself off as intensely as this one, and I’ve known some pretty shitty communities in my life (I’m old… er now.)
People show up to MU*s for very different reasons and it sometimes seems like a large number of people assume that everyone else around them is there for the exact same reason as them then get frustrated/confused when they don’t play the way they would.
I’ve had the conversation on other threads, so I won’t get into it again here if people reply back to tell me all the ways I’m wrong, but taking a tool that improves writing and using it on text based game seems like it would be a godsend to cure many of the ills that people have complained endlessly about for decades - bad writing, lack of storytellers, no interesting plots.
But to each, their own. People will feel how they feel about it and that’s okay, I guess. Its just sad for me cause I loved this hobby and I really thought this might actually put some life back into it, like CPR. So it was disappointing/sad/whatever when all the villagers pointed at the thing that could bring someone back to life thereby improving the outlook/prosperity of the entire community, called it a witch, and want it burned at the stake.
ETA: Not for nothing, but to go along with the analogy, some non-small portion of the thread is basically a witch hunt - with dubious degrees of accuracy.
@Pavel said in AI In Poses:
I can understand people using it as a translator.
I know you mean that it takes Spanish and makes it English. But it seems like that also could apply to taking Shitty English and translating that to English.
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There are people that I played with for years who are so boring, so uncreative, so repetitive and lacking spark that - by the metrics above - they are definitely being controlled by an LLM. There are times that my own writing is so flat that I would be less embarrassed if ChatGPT had written it.
While I don’t particularly want to RP with a robot, I don’t have space in my brain to start worrying about whether or not someone I’m writing with is now or has ever been an AI.
^ part of that reply was written by ChatGPT
…or was it?!
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@KarmaBum This. At this point, if someone is secretly an AI? Fine. As long as they bring more spice to the table than “grim man in a trench coat who sighs meaningfully,” they can beep-boop their way right into my scene.
^ I might’ve also written part of this with AI. Or not. Who knows? It doesn’t matter. Just be interesting.
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@Warma-Sheen said in AI In Poses:
I’ve had the conversation on other threads, so I won’t get into it again here if people reply back to tell me all the ways I’m wrong, but taking a tool that improves writing and using it on text based game seems like it would be a godsend to cure many of the ills that people have complained endlessly about for decades - bad writing, lack of storytellers, no interesting plots.
Let’s grant for a second that these are ills that ChatGPT (and other LLMs, but based on the stats, it’s ChatGPT) can cure.
Genuinely, if I can have a better time engaging with content from ChatGPT, then why do I need the other person in the loop at all? Because their (evidently) poorly-written self is somehow so much better and more effective at prompting than I am? Because I enjoy the randomness of whatever they might happen to throw at it? Why is the other person involved here? Why should I wait for them to pose back to me instead of asking ChatGPT myself? Someone explain it to me.
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Until AI stops being tremendously and irreversibly environmentally destructive, and until it stops feeding money, growth and encouragement to the most evil people on the planet I see no need to make excuses for it. Maybe I’m a relative Luddite, but maybe that’s okay.
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RPing with chatgpt is masturbation without the fun parts.
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Question:
If you found out that a person was using ChatGPT to help write their poses in an effort to work past a physical limitation, what would your opinion be in that case?
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@MisterBoring said in AI In Poses:
Question:
If you found out that a person was using ChatGPT to help write their poses in an effort to work past a physical limitation, what would your opinion be in that case?
what physical limitation would need chatGPT instead of actual tech accessibility tools??
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@MisterBoring That I’d always rather engage with a real person. That passion and creativity are always more important than getting an A from imaginary English teachers. That people who can’t look past typos or short posts aren’t worth one’s time. That no amount of for-fun amateur rp between pals can justify poisoning entire cities.
That you are enough, and you are welcome.
Got what you wanted, lost what you had.
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@MisterBoring I think it’s an interesting exercise but I’d want to talk to someone who does use it as such to understand how they use it and what the difference is for them and for others.
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@Tez I mean, please don’t take this in any way other than a legitimate question, but why should someone who utilizes a tool to work around a disability need to explain how they use that tool?
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@bear_necessities You know what? You’re right. They shouldn’t have to. I’m just curious.
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@Muscle-Car said in AI In Poses:
That’s I’d always rather engage with a real person. That passion and creativity are always more important than getting an A from imaginary English teachers. That people who can’t look past typos or short posts aren’t worth one’s time. That no amount of for-fun amateur rp between pals can justify poisoning entire cities.
I agree with this, but at the same time, not recognizing AI’s use as an assistive tech seems demeaning to people with disabilities.
I was referring to those people who are mentally fully functional, but have severe disabilities that tech assistive products only help part of the way. A person with cerebral palsy often times will not only be unable to type a full pose at a speed that allows them to maintain a respectable posing speed, but also will be unable to use voice recognition software because the same palsy makes their speech patterns indecipherable by the software.
I am fully against people who are just being lazy using AI to help with posts, but after doing a lot of reading and talking to a few people I know who need assistive tech, I now recognize the value of LLMs for those people. (Though even my friends who use AI as assistive tech will admit that some of the responses it gives are quite insane and they have to use their best judgement to decide when to use it and when it’s just crazy.)
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@bear_necessities said in AI In Poses:
@Tez I mean, please don’t take this in any way other than a legitimate question, but why should someone who utilizes a tool to work around a disability need to explain how they use that tool?
“I’d want” and “they need” aren’t the same thing, especially in this instance of talking about a thought experiment. I’d much rather a real person actually using the technology as an assistive one explain how and why than try to think up fictional scenarios that lead to apropos of nothing statements.
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So that I’m not misunderstood: A person absolutely doesn’t need to explain their disability to me or how they overcome/deal with it. When we are talking about using something as a disability treatment, assistant, or whatever I do want to hear from disabled people not half-baked conjecture from people who aren’t using the technology in such a way.
