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@aine Part fucking three, I guess…
Jenn — 06/06/2023 10:55
Ok. Leto Conrad, Conrad Leto. Can we wrap and post this library scene, or is there more to be done? Do we need to ask Wizard prior, in case she has other plans?Leto — 06/06/2023 10:58
Sup!
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I’m down either way, I think it’s reached a natural wrapping point. I don’t think there’s much to be done! I figure if Wiz has plans they’ll shoot us somethingJenn — 06/06/2023 10:59
Or they’ll just shoot us. Just wanted to check first.Conrad — 06/06/2023 11:01
Yeah, same page hereJenn — 06/06/2023 11:02
Cool. Gonna wrap and post, then. That way anyone who showed that wants to make follow-up plans with Wiz to do cool things with the plot they’ve been thrown can grab those plots and run with them.Conrad — 06/06/2023 11:03
Conrad has his bill fold at the ready.Jenn — 07/06/2023 09:07
As loathe as I am to do it… I feel like at this point, we probably need to invite Wizard to the scene? She’s going to want to oversee this, because she’s probably going to want rolls and things to go along with it - even if the only reason we’re doing this shit is so I can stop trying to type around nonconsentual NSFW shit anytime Sophia is on camera. Anyone mind if I page her about it?Conrad — 07/06/2023 09:45
I don’t, but I’m not really in the scene anyway
12 June 2023Jenn — 12/06/2023 21:23
Ok. And. Also… I know IC’ly we’re not group texters. But. Soph’s typist has a shit memory. Someone remind me tomorrow that Iris and I dedcided Soph’s later roll will be spellwork -3. And then tell me how to add the -3 part.Conrad — 12/06/2023 21:23
sure
15 June 2023Jenn — 15/06/2023 17:10
Y’all are going to have to let me know if Sophia gets nuked while I’m at therapy tonight. LOLLeto — 15/06/2023 17:17
What’d I miss? But will do!Jenn — 15/06/2023 17:20
Everyone got to talking about game mechanics and complicated dice rules. I had to run out the door mostly right after Getting a NO, Sophia, just no.Conrad — 15/06/2023 17:51
I have no idea what other Aresgames she’s talking about. Probably all the WoD wannabe spinoffs I’ve been seeing. The people who know Ares and FS3 really well don’t use degrees of success. We set up magic to work as part of the combat system and use weapon and armor mods to handle the effects of magic as if it was a gun you were shooting or whatever. FS3 is 100% designed to favor players succeeding most of the time.
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I’ve been using FS3 since it was on PennMUSH, it’s really not designed to be mucked with as much as a lot of the games have been doing. Mostly because they want to avoid coding up their own system.Leto — 15/06/2023 18:09
I hate WoD so much >.<
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Been seeing a lot of ‘Say you’re a WoD game without saying your a WoD game’ too nowadays. FS3 is SO user friendly and over complicating your best mechanic on a game is deadlyConra — 15/06/2023 18:13
I used to WoD a lot like 15 years ago
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But I got tired of it
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FS3 is for games like Battlestar Galactica or something. It was never meant to support magic. You can make it work, but she’s trying to force FS3 to do things that mess up how it is designed.
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So I agree totallyJenn — 15/06/2023 18:22
I think you are BOTH right. Also. Break over. Must go back to therapy now.
18 June 2023Leto — 18/06/2023 20:35
Choose violence!Conrad — 18/06/2023 22:31
…
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wtfJenn — 18/06/2023 22:32
Like… For realllll… I keep staring at that Sandoval scene tempted to pose in with:
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It’s barely even mid-June, and Sophia has had the worst summer of her life already. She’s wearing a black tank-top that shows off an ugly, symbolic scar on her right shoulder blade. She’s wearing denim shorts and black sandals. She’s got her pale-pink backpack carried by the top handle in her right hand. She’s not in healing course, but, overall… It seems like the kind of summer elective that may come in handy, all things considered. She lifts a hand, waving to Calliope, and she’s most of the way to a seat when she spots a redhead she’s never wanted to see again. “Fuck.” She reaches for her phone, and just blatantly snaps a picture while under the guise of sending a text message. “I thought this was Intro to Healing, not autopsy.” She just kind of stands there and stares. “Schrödinger’s Witch. Lovely to see you again, not still dead in your box.”Conrad — 18/06/2023 22:37
So, do we know yet IC that she is lying?Jenn — 18/06/2023 22:41
Nope!
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She may NOT be lying. The dead body may well have been the lie.
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All we know is that someone cannot be both dead and alive at the same time.Conrad — 18/06/2023 22:42
Has anyone removed that dome to see if there is actually still a body there?Jenn — 18/06/2023 22:42
But. Since the guy she’s falling for is one of the ones being framed for that death… And Sunset’s bestie is the other one being framed for it… Seems like finding out which is which might be worth it to Soph either way.
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I don’t think Austin is going to answer Soph’s calls. Zayden showed up as quick as he could, though, and seems to think it’s worth poking at.
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They were the two left to deal with the body.Leto — 18/06/2023 22:47
HmJenn — 18/06/2023 22:52
Well. One more source of Sophia’s research was cut off.
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Dear Ms. Starke,Given the nature of your request, I cannot with good conscience give you carte blanche access to materials that the Order has deemed highly restricted, if not outright forbidden. However, I /am/ of the mindset that if you give a specific research proposal with the topics you are interested in searching for with particularly specifics of your inquiry, I would be very much oblidged.
As a note: There are no Enochian civilization. Enoch was considered the first city, East of Eden, built by the surviving son of Adam and Eve, Caine in the land of Nod. Enoch is mostly considered allegorical by most scholars. As such, there are no histories of such a city that would exist in our library, even in the restricted section that you are referring to.
The Codex Magica is a particularly sensitive book in our collection, and thus, I would like specifics on your inquiry. Again, I cannot give you access to the book carte blanche, but with certain specifics as to your research interests, I can make copies of pertinent references.
Warmest Regards
Elena Devries
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I will deal with that tomorrow.Conrad — 18/06/2023 23:00
So…what 8 hour spell are we trying to cast?Jenn — 18/06/2023 23:02
Fuck if I know.
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Zone of Truth and True Sight should not be long, complicated spellwork.
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I feel like even if we three rounded each, that’s under ten minutes total. This woman, unless she isn’t Sparrow or wants to prove she’s not frail and blind? Ten minutes with all eight of us should NOT be an issue.
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Wiz invited two first years to a scene with an NPC she didn’t think would get challenged. They drug Sophia along since Soph knows how to get into the treehouse, and she had a good IC reason to have been there. And now she’s trying to cover her ass without taking responsibility for her own stories.Jenn — 19/06/2023 20:24
Ok. So. As fair warning. Sophia is actually, for once, INTENTIONALLY leaning into the boy drama with her next pose. Since there is now an audience with camera phones out. Starke may as well give the audience an easy explanation. I am so sorry to BOTH of you in advance for that one.Leto — 19/06/2023 20:25
Oh boy
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That’s okay Jenn!Conrad — 19/06/2023 22:45
Wow. That was…something.Leto — 19/06/2023 22:46
Ah, and yet so freeing. Welp, happy to be gone from that stress. My GodConrad — 19/06/2023 22:49
haha, her bbpost about Leto being banned.Jenn — 19/06/2023 22:50
WHAT?
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Please send. I need a reason for popcorn. LOLLeto — 19/06/2023 22:51
Couldn’t help itConrad — 19/06/2023 22:51
Leto player has been disinvited from the MU*.
Telling staff multiple ways to fuck themselves and that certain other players balls’ are constantly fondled by said staffer is not a way to remain ingratiated to a game.
Any questions, please send questions my way.Jenn — 19/06/2023 22:51
OMG. Leto. WHICH staffers? Whose balls? I am DYING.Leto — 19/06/2023 22:52
Oh, well Austin decided to remark ‘good riddance’’ after you had gone and I took that personallyJenn — 19/06/2023 22:53
Awww.Leto — 19/06/2023 22:53
So I politely told Wiz to stop fondling him with favoritismJenn — 19/06/2023 22:53
Also. Not surprising. He’s a shit human.Leto — 19/06/2023 22:53
politelyConrad — 19/06/2023 22:59
And now Laurent appears to be pissed at how we went about this casting.Jenn — 19/06/2023 23:00
I mean. Sophia’s ONLY ic suggestion, OR ooc suggestion was to cast ‘true sight’. Past that, it was out of my hands all around.
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Luka and Ilaria paged to ask if I would go with them to a scene. Leto OK’ed Sophia helping them get into the treehouse.Conrad — 19/06/2023 23:02
Yeah, I was just told that we were going with Zone of Truth.
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Whatever, such a clusterfuckJenn — 19/06/2023 23:03
Laurent invited himself when he heard Sparrow was there, which. He IC’ly thinks he killed someone, and people are going to blame him. I TOTALLY get that motivation. It’s just… Gone downhill from him telling her to text every 2nd and 3rd year she knew.Conrad — 19/06/2023 23:03
I’m going to see if she marks you two as dead or gone
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Or rosterJenn — 19/06/2023 23:04
I sent you Sophia’s Last Will, didn’t I?Conrad — 19/06/2023 23:04
You did
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Did you want me to relay that to Wiz right now or wait until I see what she doesJenn — 19/06/2023 23:05
Feel free to make the choices that are best for YOU.
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And. At least… In the end… Sophia will always have this record:
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Words Written in Scenes: 150531Leto — 19/06/2023 23:14
Pretty sure Wiz is gonna do for us what she did to Meifeng and Santi…probably found in a ditch brutally murdered or what have youJenn — 19/06/2023 23:15
YUP.
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That, or she’s going to roster Sophia. And then pick up Sophia herself. And then try to fuck Conrad. 50/50, really.Conrad — 19/06/2023 23:16
HahJenn — 19/06/2023 23:26
Since I am closing out all of my no longer needed tabs… THIS is the pose you both missed as Soph’s start to the next round of the hospital scene, if Conrad had remembered to type there. LOL
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Sophia does not want to hurt Leto any more than she has already. And. As long as she’s clarified the one line she won’t let him cross - and she has - she can manage, at some point, to forgive all of the rest of it. She’s not going to hurt her by crossing any of his boundaries if they’re avoidable. But. She’s also going to believe that he’s never lied to her before - and thus he probably isn’t lying to her now. “Lee?” Her voice is soft. “I know there are things you don’t want to see, and things you have no need to know…” She’s not trying to make him watch this. They’ve both said that if she needs something, she should ask them.It’s awkward, and she doesn’t know how to actually make that ask. She doesn’t want to make things worse. She is, however, an adult who can do hard things. They have both said she should, and so she does. “Mostly, in this exact moment, is to hold someone’s hand. I don’t know if that’s going to happen, or not.” She suspects that as long as it doesn’t lead to punching, it probably will. But. It’s still not a hand she has any actual rights to claim without asking for it. “If that ends up happening, I don’t think you want to see it when it does. Because the other thing I need, is not to have to make you watch that.” And. Like she’s said… She doesn’t have the choice to be the one leaving today in order to ensure that watching doesn’t turn into an unwanted obligation.
Conrad — 19/06/2023 23:27
Conrad is the worstLeto — 19/06/2023 23:30
whistlesConrad — 19/06/2023 23:32
And you are both dead
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No bbpost yet, but you’ve been moved to the dead sectionJenn — 19/06/2023 23:33
They were killed by Eriksons while eloping, obvi.Leto — 19/06/2023 23:34
XD
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Called it
20 June 2023Conrad — Yesterday at 18:49
Ok, so apparently Leto was killed “along with his family” for sharing rune magic secrets. So was Soph, along with her father it seems. So…you all got shuffled off and killed in the woods.Jenn — Yesterday at 18:49
Well. At least she’s not using my pixels to try and hook up with Conrad.Conrad — Yesterday at 18:58
lolJenn — Yesterday at 19:01
And honestly. It has to be a better eternity for Leto than having been forced to marry Sophia’s hot mess of a dumpster fire ass, too.Conrad — Yesterday at 19:12
I mean…is it?Jenn — Yesterday at 19:15
How many 3am knocks on his door does Conrad regret? Probably. Can you imagine a life-time of that? LOLLeto — Yesterday at 20:06
Caaaallled it -
@aine What a terrible fucking rollercoaster
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This might be beneficial to split off into its own thread, @Tez .
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@bear_necessities There is an effort to make Brakebills, it’s an alpha (if even that yet) that’s been public for a bit. Seems like they are taking their time with it.
I had a good feeling when I visited last month, and lots of hope for this one. The people were very friendly.
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@Whisky said in MU Peeves Thread:
Was nudged by the head staffer to make a character, was busy at the time, and said that. Was nudged again and again. Eventually carved out some time to put together a character, but didn’t do the application correctly as I don’t really understand the theme.
I was in a very similar position, though it wasn’t the headwiz who nudged me, it was someone else on the game who has been ostracized and wanted someone to play with.
Said player thought the lack of RP was their fault somehow.
Surprise, surprise, the character is female. I think I understand now why she can’t get any RP.
Thankfully, my very shaky understanding of the setting, the mountains of character restrictions that ensure that anything interesting is banned, and some bad vibes about the place when I looked around made me put off trying to app there.
Looks like I dodged a dumpster fire!
Replies were much shorter now, with one-word answers. Woke up in the morning to find the password changed and my mostly-done character was now a roster character, mostly edited to suit what they wanted.
… Wow. That’s one of the most rude things I’ve ever seen done. It is consistent with the behavior of who I’m thinking of, though.
@Pink
@Raeras said in MU Peeves Thread:She posted an ad on the other place and with her username there (chibichibi) I knew exactly who she was from some old WoD encounters. I don’t think I’ve experienced her as a game runner prior to this but she did have a thread on the other place for awhile about putting together a MtA game before it fell off.
Yeah, if its who I’m thinking of, I met her in the Mage Sphere.
Where she played an Orphan who used sex magic as focus.
And was allowed to hang out in the Traditions Chantry. And, of course, fuck a lot of the male Mages.
@SpaceKhomeini said in MU Peeves Thread:
To be fair you just described at least three people I can vaguely recall. Yikes.
… I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry.
… Holy fuck, that is quite the horrorshow. The my way or the highway aspect of her absolutely tracks with my old memories, as does approving things then coming later saying they didn’t approve of the things despite proof.
Christ, the fact that there might be multiple people like this as SpaceKhomeini has said is really disheartening. Even if they’re mostly left in the Before Times.
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@CuriousGamer said in MU Peeves Thread:
@bear_necessities There is an effort to make Brakebills, it’s an alpha (if even that yet) that’s been public for a bit. Seems like they are taking their time with it.
I had a good feeling when I visited last month, and lots of hope for this one. The people were very friendly.
This game was made by Willoughby, who was Wynn@TheNetwork and also Entropy@Elseworlds, who might as well be a less shrill, male version of this crazy lady.
It also has a total of 15 scenes, the last of which was mid-March, and is the place that jujube/inuki/chookitypoo/whatever stole a bunch of her stuff for Neitherlands from.
I’d wish people good luck but, lol.
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@STD said in MU Peeves Thread:
Yeah, if its who I’m thinking of, I met her in the Mage Sphere.
Where she played an Orphan who used sex magic as focus.
And was allowed to hang out in the Traditions Chantry. And, of course, fuck a lot of the male Mages.
Back on The Reach, my character (W) had a Proximus girlfriend (F); this person (jujube/inuki) had a … husband? boyfriend? idek, we’ll call him (A).
Anyway, one day I randomly get an IC email from her telling me I needed to get F in line because she was being a huge slut and hitting on A.
By that point W and F were mostly over each other and a breakup was imminent, but I wouldn’t have cared either way, and neither would W…
…so I mostly just laughed in her face. But I just remember having to read ‘get your skank in line’. Lol.
She’s been nuts for a long time and has evidently not gotten any better.
In Occam I trust.
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@Coin ‘obviously she already is in line to fuck your husband’ – a line of good rp that would be fun with the right co-player.
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@Meg said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Coin ‘obviously she already is in line to fuck your husband’ – a line of good rp that would be fun with the right co-player.
lmao. A++
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@CuriousGamer I looked at this game awhile back and I was not interested, but thank you for the offer. As much as I would love a Magicians game, I don’t think the theme works well for a public game nor would it work for a game USING FS3 (i don’t want to start a war with you, @KarmaBum) just due to the magic system involved.
Anyway this whole thing is a big YIKES from me, and I’ll be adding this lady to my perma-banned list for any future games I run.
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@DrQuinn said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Whisky said in MU Peeves Thread:
Woke up in the morning to find the password changed and my mostly-done character was now a roster character, mostly edited to suit what they wanted.
I would be super pissed if a PC I made (even if I didn’t finish it!) was made a roster without my consent or approval. That’s so rude.
That happened to me on a game once. I want to say Witchcraft & Wizardry? I made an OC, did a few scenes, and idled out, and when I came back months later my OC had been rostered and someone else was playing him, without my consent.
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@Whisky I know you said you weren’t particularly attached to your WIP character, but I find this kind of theft of work especially heinous and I’m sorry it happened to you.
If she’s this unconcerned about ethics just go to ChatGPT (which is trained off stolen copyrighted works), feed it a completed app and ask it to fart out a new app set in the same world in that format.
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@Nilli said in MU Peeves Thread:
That happened to me on a game once. I want to say Witchcraft & Wizardry? I made an OC, did a few scenes, and idled out, and when I came back months later my OC had been rostered and someone else was playing him, without my consent.
Lol SAME. Oh my five minutes on Witchcraft & Wizardry, what a time. This was the only game I’d seen do that, make original characters into rosters without the player’s OK. Another player even played the character I’d made for a while. It was weird.
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@Third-Eye I never went back again to see what the new player was doing with my boy, but it was WEIRD. I guess it’s nice to know that it wasn’t just me this happened to!
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Someone else random piloting my retired PC is a horrifying thought. I can’t imagine taking a players character and turning it into a roster.
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Tez
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@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?
(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)
(edited to add spoiler tags 'cause the image is huge)
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@devu said in Neitherlands:
@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?
(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)
>That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)
In Occam I trust.
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The modus operandi has since shifted to personalized dead/gone messages. Which is kind of nice in a really butthurt way.
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@Coin said in Neitherlands:
@devu said in Neitherlands:
@YetiBeard what, like this approved character who was renamed, altered and turned into a roster?
(Not my character, but this is… so confusing. Literally more work than just making a new roster bit.)
>That was Clockwork’s character, too. They actually called Wizard out on this on the Ares Discord server.
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: FRAAAAAAAAAAAACK
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: 5 days!
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: IT ONLY TOOK 5 days before some player threw a shit fit and had a conniption fit on channel and had to be banned
[1:11 AM]NeitherlandsMU: DAFUQ PEOPLE
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you ‘retire’ a character
[10:30 AM]NeitherlandsMU: to move them from approved to gone?
[10:32 AM]Tat: options are in ‘help manage idle’
[11:27 AM]Emblem of Ea MU: MU attracts more than its fair share of crazy. One learns to live with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯* (iiiiiiirony)
[9:16 PM]NeitherlandsMU: how do you set someone to DEAD?
[9:18 PM]Faraday: Same way Tat said - help manage idle. Explains the whole idle system.
[9:33 PM]NeitherlandsMU: i don’t see an option for dead
[9:35 PM]Tributary: idle/now <name>=<status> - Sets someone’s status without running through the idle queue. Only ‘None’, ‘Dead’ and ‘Gone’ are valid options here.
[9:36 PM]Faraday: Also in help manage idle it lists ‘dead’ as one of the status options in the list near the top of the article. And it’s an option in the status dropdown on the idle sweep web portal screen.
[9:47 PM]Clockwork: By the way, when you destroy a character in Ares, it does not reassign the “dbref number” like in MUX. It creates a new number each time you create a character. So when you went into Carter and renamed him and changed him into a different character for the roster, his scenes stayed linked to your new roster, Topher. And I would have appreciated you not logging into my character and just removing it as requested.(the “shitfit and coniption” mentioned at the beginning is the incident @Aria was referring to in her earlier post)
Seriously, their “shitfit and coniption” was basically just…
The magic system was confusing and spread out in multiple places. They were strongly suggesting it be consolidated into one page to reference, because they didn’t understand it and thought having it all in once place might make it easier to figure out.
That’s it. That’s literally it. Is that work for a staffer to do? Yes. Is it an unreasonable request? No. That’s base level organization of the core info you need to make a character in this game.
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So, a while back I lost a puppy to parvo and at the same time we thought my spouse’s father was having a heart attack.
This person was messaging me for advice/help on getting Ares up. I told her to reach out to Faraday and she kept asking me and we had this exchange, which honestly really soured me of them.
I don’t mind being helpful to people but when I say my father in law might have had a heart attack and you continue to ask for help without acknowledging that maybe I have more important things to be doing….
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