@Coin I’ve learned you’re never too old to use a trophy as a dick. These are important life lessons.

@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:

I’m not entirely sure how the two things you mentioned go together; no one’s telling you not to make zombie armies…? That’s not even remotely slutty. Unless they are slutty zombies. And then again, you do you (or him or her or whoever!) but keep it contained to the people who consent?

I’m a bit amused how you replied to the joke part of my post and ignored my actual point that many games, themes, and settings do touch on sexuality. I get what you’re saying, time and place, blah blah, but you can’t just say ‘but muh theme’ as an overall objection, at least in my opinion.

I’ve spent time over the years thinking about my position on these things, which has for sure changed over time. It’s a complicated topic honestly. Women get slut shamed, even by other women. If there’s someone you want to RP with but he’s always hanging out with some chick, it tends to get framed as for sure TS with the woman being on the ‘doing wrong’ side of it.

Women are the ones stated as ‘causing drama’ when love triangles go wrong. Dudes who are creeps get written off and eye rolled, despite being legitimately RL dangerous. (I honest to god have stories and I’m sure others do as well)

Even in the example with the submissive guild mate, it wasn’t the man (who is clearly complicit) that was framed as being objectionable, it was the woman’s words and actions. That situation would have made me uncomfortable too, but since it was her actions, she gets the focus, despite it clearly being to his benefit as well.

As pro kink as I am, do I love people being roped into other peoples public displays of whatever? No. But I’m honestly not going to be outspoken about it like I once was — in a broadly speaking fashion.

With the whole groomer narrative RL about stuff like the dumb leather harness from Balenciaga, despite it being on several runways for spring and a thing in fashion long enough that there are fast fashion versions, I don’t trust people to know actual kink if it bent them over, spanked their ass and told them to say step on me mommy. I’m absolutely sick to death of hearing about sexuality being ‘rubbed in peoples faces’ over any slight show of gay affection.

There’s a redic thread of purity culture in MU* and I’ve been part of it, despite also being an unrepentant turbo slut. Someone in this thread (I think) actually managed to state that they don’t participate in TS in what I felt was straight up a non-judgy way, which is exceedingly rare. Aro/ace exists and that too is part of human sexuality and is a cool thing to explore. That’s kind of the point with sexual themes within themes. Sex is part of the human condition and seeing how your inhuman or sorta but not or magical human relates to it and your character themselves deals with things is another facet to play out.

You don’t like it? Ok. Can people’s behavior be annoying or gross? Yes. Can it ruin your scene? Absolutely. Does that suck? Yes. But let’s not pretend there isn’t a theme out there that doesn’t relate to sexuality in some way. Even a historical puritan game would relate to themes of sexuality. Frankly it might even hinge on it more than many other themes.

We should look more at how the attitudes around TS are actually pretty harmful to women and other marginalized groups, how we talk about things publicly versus privately, why shame has to be involved in any of it, and empower people to be able to set healthy boundaries by open discussion rather than setting a standard of purity being better.

Additionally, loud and clear boundary setting should be the gold standard. I’d rather hear a complaint of ‘these people were doing this and several of us stated that we didn’t feel comfortable with the scene and they continued to ignore our boundaries’ rather than ‘I wish people wouldn’t do this because ew’. Is there a difference? Absolutely. One scenario expects others to recognize that people are making you uncomfortable. The other gives them the option to either respect your feelings without any guessing games. It shows other players healthy boundary setting and communication.

I wrote this on my phone. I have no idea how long it is. I’d like to give a special thanks to the Adderall shortages for the rambling nature. I’m not proof reading this. It is what it is.

— Staff —
I staffed on SI as Epona. I believe I was staff other places, but only minor and I have surely blocked it from memory. Poe on Trinity? This is vague. I think Epona was my only mention on WORA.

— Misc games —
Honorable mention to Castle d’Image because I can’t remember 20+ year old chars other than they were stupid as fuck but man that game was old
CyberSphere - idk I forgot but i got accused of being a dude rl a lot
HellMush - Dabriel
Anita Blake games - October…?? Some dingbat Dryad also well who’s name escapes me.

— Amber —
AmberMUSH - Carlotta, Portia (and others…can’t remember.)

Chronicles of Amber - Portia

Road to Amber - Portia (Yeah, I reuse names like crazy I said don’t judge), Desdemona, Alexis Karm, Carlotta

— WoD —
The Dreaming - Candi (the pooka who was a squirrel/alicorn)

Emerald Dreams - Eileen (selkie)

DWR - I want to say…Raven? Some vamp that hung out with a bunch of Sluagh

Metro (the first) - Murder? A sluagh

Mednights - Danette, Eileen,(both satyrs), October (Gangrel) … such fond memories of the players here
Persistence of Memory - Sin (Sidhe)

Shadowed Isles - Thursday, Jocasta, Saskia the Highlander immortal (this was never a good idea)

Darkness Falls (Falling?) - Star the demon

Crystal Bridges - Lirilith (wtf was I on?)

Twin Cities - Countess Olivia

Trinity - Olivia
Haunted Memories- Minna
The Reach - October, Desdemona, Sofie

I have some really old WHO lists I should dig up.

@Wizz Omg thank you for reminding me that there are places worse than Texas in some ways. Holy crap Satan?! Like. I’m fully dead this is amazing. Who knew that Satan’s powers were over 9000?!

Utah be like

@Aria Oh yeah ask for a peak flow! Now, grain of salt, I’m not a doctor, etc etc, but I’ve been a lifelong asthmatic. This is what I’ve been told over the years, it’s something that might be good to bring up with your doctor.

I was told, while in the ICU from an attack, by my doc that was in charge of my care, that her BFF had just died from asthma. Her BFF was a fellow doctor with mild adult asthma. We tend to push though more and not take it seriously enough and can get into trouble. That really stuck with me. I don’t say this to scare you, just to make sure you’re taking care of yourself and don’t lapse into complacency. My issue is capitalism forced me to work while sick, with other people who were sick, and who nearly killed me. (Literally, I coded)

Another grain of salt advice to tuck into the back of your mind in case of emergencies, IV Magnesium can literally save your life in an ER/Ambulance asthma attack situation. A very knowledgeable paramedic saved me from intubation by running Magnesium. Even the ER doc didn’t know about that. (It’s been researched and proven!)

The breathing out thing was what I was told by a respiratory therapist. They’re AMAZING. Gave me breathing exercises and actual information on how best breathe when I take my meds.

Also, ask your doc if you should be using a spacer. I found a spacer to be a literal life saver when they changed the inhalers from the CFC type.

Totally unasked for advice, feel free to smile and nod and move on, but I feel bringing something up that you can ask your doctor about may be helpful and at the very least isn’t harmful.

@Sammich Hey!! I played there! Don’t remember what or who or how long but I was there! Totally forgot about that!

@Solstice This gif is magical and I love your brain for picking it.

Keto is great if it’s for you. It’s not for everyone. Keto works largely because you eat less than you burn, like every diet. It works for me but it also helps my bipolar meds work better, fixes hormone issues, stuff like that. It also makes it harder to eat and you get tired of the food. I can easily grab a handful of cookies without thinking but cheese cubes and some nuts? Meh. I get tired of it so I’ll skip snacking which means I’m not actually hungry.

@Wyrmsign said in Dead MU*s you remember fondly:

Mab and Morrigan. Mab was Isis when the game was Dark Wine and Roses then they took it over and turned it into the trainwreck that was Shadowed Isles.

YES!! Ty!! I forgot about DWR being the predecessor somehow. That game was around at such a bad point in my life, I didn’t have the spine to say ‘uh how about no’. Awful awful awful but there were honestly so many super cool people too.

My inability to set boundaries is my bad. There are been far worse and legit dangerous game runners so could have been worse.

@helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Luna said in MU Peeves Thread:

Because I think y’all might have missed that whole part.

There’s a lot to miss.

I’m less than ideally medicated and am doing my level best.

@GF Woah. That should be utterly illegal! That’s so scary!

@junipersky I had to literally just come to terms with never seeing friends and family in Austin/the Hill country because of my severe allergy to Cedar. I’m so sorry you’re miserable, I empathize hard. I hope it’s just allergies!

@Aria Oh yeah ask for a peak flow! Now, grain of salt, I’m not a doctor, etc etc, but I’ve been a lifelong asthmatic. This is what I’ve been told over the years, it’s something that might be good to bring up with your doctor.

I was told, while in the ICU from an attack, by my doc that was in charge of my care, that her BFF had just died from asthma. Her BFF was a fellow doctor with mild adult asthma. We tend to push though more and not take it seriously enough and can get into trouble. That really stuck with me. I don’t say this to scare you, just to make sure you’re taking care of yourself and don’t lapse into complacency. My issue is capitalism forced me to work while sick, with other people who were sick, and who nearly killed me. (Literally, I coded)

Another grain of salt advice to tuck into the back of your mind in case of emergencies, IV Magnesium can literally save your life in an ER/Ambulance asthma attack situation. A very knowledgeable paramedic saved me from intubation by running Magnesium. Even the ER doc didn’t know about that. (It’s been researched and proven!)

The breathing out thing was what I was told by a respiratory therapist. They’re AMAZING. Gave me breathing exercises and actual information on how best breathe when I take my meds.

Also, ask your doc if you should be using a spacer. I found a spacer to be a literal life saver when they changed the inhalers from the CFC type.

Totally unasked for advice, feel free to smile and nod and move on, but I feel bringing something up that you can ask your doctor about may be helpful and at the very least isn’t harmful.

@Wyrmsign said in Dead MU*s you remember fondly:

Mab and Morrigan. Mab was Isis when the game was Dark Wine and Roses then they took it over and turned it into the trainwreck that was Shadowed Isles.

YES!! Ty!! I forgot about DWR being the predecessor somehow. That game was around at such a bad point in my life, I didn’t have the spine to say ‘uh how about no’. Awful awful awful but there were honestly so many super cool people too.

My inability to set boundaries is my bad. There are been far worse and legit dangerous game runners so could have been worse.

@farfalla Seems fair, I’m done, it just took me a long time to figure out my reply and format it or I wouldn’t have made it.

@Kestrel I’ve been playing since like…1992, minus my recent time out since TR…and your minority/majority experience is reversed from mine. I’m one person, so I’m not discounting your experiences but I’m going to go out on a limb and think that my playlist isn’t the same as your playlist at the very least.

Slut shaming is a huge issue online and RL. People oversexualixing small things is a huge issue rn RL which is why I stated I give it a serious side eye in these discussions.

I’m going to be honest, considering the current way things are going RL, I personally am not going to give in to some perceived prude persecution complex.

Once is a coincidence, twice is a pattern. Fuck nuance, if something happens more than once that you don’t like and you don’t find another place to play, that’s on you.

It’s a solution I hate, but it’s legit been the only 100% working solution going as far back as I can remember. We should always work to improve any community, but there will always be disagreements over what is and isn’t acceptable behavior.

Unacceptable sexual situations has been in public discourse by sociologists since the early 1990’s due to the LambdaMoo incident and hasn’t really been considered ‘solved’ yet. . (See this account and this article)

@Aria Idk if anyone has told you this, but it’s helpful to think about an asthma attack as a problem breathing out, not a problem breathing in. So if you’re having an attack, while you’re getting your rescue, focus on pushing air out.

Also be extra sure to follow doctors orders, take your peak flows, all of that. Asthma is way more insidious for adults.

@IoleRae Wait. Wait wait wait. Are we literally talking about sex games in these complaints? Bc that’s disingenuous af.

Well. Someone hand me a rake, I guess I’m now officially ‘you kids get off my lawn’ years old. Back in my day even Shang didn’t have this much public sex.

Rip. I just wanted to play Mage again.

@helvetica said in MU Peeves Thread:

@Snackness @Pyrephox @Tez wow I can’t wait to be made uncomfortable by you all when I dip into some casual bar rp and you try to sit on my character’s lap for no fucking reason

It’s even better at a coffee shop.