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MU Peeves Thread
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@Coin i appreciate the apology. i debated whether to say anything about the keep sweet stuff, because it is very raw for me due to background and currently dealing with why can’t you just be nice so they won’t be uncomfortable stuff being slung at me personally (i know that here it was done pretty impersonally) due to me speaking up about certain things after someone else makes a really offensive statement. But i am trying to be better about speaking up about it in other areas too. i should have replied directly to the post, but my habit is to use the general reply button.
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I too wish we could all just get along but sometimes somebody’s being a shithead. Like-- you can’t just be kind to people being a shithead. It exhausts you and amuses the shithead.
I have spent hours and hours of my life bending over backwards trying to be nice to people who were intent on being shitheads and generally the result was that I spent hours and hours of emotional labor on people who could not have cared less about me or the impact on me.
let it be a challenge to you
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Maybe this is why my hips and back hurt so much lately. Bending over for shitheads…
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@sao said in MU Peeves Thread:
I too wish we could all just get along
That’d be so fucking boring. Disagreements, arguments, conflict… that’s the spice of life, the only way we as a species advance. And sometimes you’ve gotta punch a fuckhead.
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@mietze said in MU Peeves Thread:
@Pyrephox yeah. i think i have such an aversion to that attitude because it’s just so…myopic. especially since usually i’ve found the same people who have some weird entitlement to a game not closing because they’re not wanting it to are also often the first to complain about the lack of new games for them to try. with absolutely no sense of irony.
It feels like another version of shitting on someone for…idk daring to try and do something. Which I have less and less patience for is the nicest way I can say it, but the ‘daring to try and do something that wasn’t perfect and you can maybe learn from the next time’ is…idk do people not want people to make games? Is that the lesson here?
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Wow.
I’m not sure which point to hit or not. Really, to be fair I’m about standing up when standing up is needed. I always say be kind go read almost every post I’ve made.
I’m not going to address the assumptions about me because you don’t know me, but wow.
I, as a person, thought we were looking at a personal attack and I thought (maybe I thought wrong) that we were avoiding doing that here. That is all. I also said you could disregard it.
However, I know that’s a trigger for you to ask people to be kind, so I will try to keep that in mind when next posting.
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@RightMeow what assumptions were made about you? honestly asking, not attacking. from my skim of this, it seemed mostly to be people saying ‘i don’t like this general behavior’.
but there’s a lot of concurrent conversations and i am not really invested, so i am honestly asking to see if there was something i missed.
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Probably one of the wildest things about this forum is the general disregard for decorum. To me that’s part of what makes it fun as entertainment but I have also operated under the assumption that most people who leaned into that were also aware of how going ham on internet strangers and embracing axiomatic thinking looks from the outside. Think I may have been wrong about that lol
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I missed a BIG word in there. That was my bad, but I’ll leave the post because I can admit missing an important word. I missed ‘sometimes’ so when you skip a word that changes the meaning.
That’s why I was like daaaaaamn what did I do? I admit it. That was bad of me. I’m sorry.
This is a lot like when I was having an internet ‘disagreement’ and left out the word ‘not’ once. It happens.
Carry on. Sorry about that.
EDIT: I can also delete it if it hits feels or comes off as harsh when it was not what the original person intended towards me (I think).
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@shit-piss-love said in MU Peeves Thread:
the general disregard for decorum
It’s not disregard, we established our own decorum, which specifically flew in the face of the “keep the peace” kind of bullshit that gets people into the kinds of difficult situations we talk about.
He/Him. Opinions and views are solely my own unless specifically stated otherwise.
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I do figure most people here have some pretty wild thoughts about other people on this forum, but generally don’t voice them because we like RPing together and decide it’s just easier to quietly tolerate each other’s bullshit.
Yknow, like any other dysfunctional family.
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@Pavel Great example! That is why I keep clicking the link every couple days, more if it’s getting spicy. I wouldn’t want y’all to change.
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@Testament said in MU Peeves Thread:
I do figure most people here have some pretty wild thoughts about other people on this forum, but generally don’t voice them because we like RPing together and decide it’s just easier to quietly tolerate each other’s bullshit.
Yknow, like any other dysfunctional family.
Or just a pond with more than one shark swimming around. The bitey kind of shark.
I woke up feeling so good, I think I’d better call in sick/ I need a personal trainer to help me hold my drink
I plan to be spontaneous next time we meet/I’m putting off procrastinating until next week
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I’m gonna gently suggest that it’s more like this forum has a lot of trauma survivors and gets the occasional screwball like Warma who knows how to come in and start pushing everyone’s buttons.
He’s just like, an even shittier Ghost, imo, because he seems self-aware about it to some larger ambiguous degree and it comes off as intentional.
You can make the points he’s made occasionally as legitimate points. But it just seems like that’s not his actual goal in joining the conversation most of the time.
Also anyone who would be in inuki/wizard/spookitypook/whatever’s corner is a fuckin’ weirdo, just saying. That was some weird, wild shit and I can absolutely see why someone would find it at least a little traumatizing?
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@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:
an even shittier Ghost
Nahhhh. If that were true, I’d have our lil resident War Machine on ignore already.
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@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:
He’s just like, an even shittier Ghost, imo, because he seems self-aware about it to some larger ambiguous degree and it comes off as intentional.
Ghost is 100% aware and it is 100% intentional.
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I just know you can’t say either name three times without inviting a massive headache so, whatever, lol, all I meant is they’re both terrible and it’s better not to engage.
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@Omen said in MU Peeves Thread:
Try to remember that there are people with feelings behind these staff bits that put a lot of their time and creative energy into something that didn’t work out in the end, and nobody could be more sensitive or aware of that reality than they are.
I hear you on this. 100%. That’s my bad.
If you or @Anhedonia, or anyone else, were offended or felt less by what I said, I’m sorry about that. Truly.
@KarmaBum said in MU Peeves Thread:
Plus, you’re jumping to the defense of someone I know for sure is telling lies about me and why I banned her.
So yes. I got beef with you.
This seems to be the thing. But it is an odd thing.
Because I’ve never said she wasn’t telling lies about you and why you banned her.
I never once talked about her on your game or her interaction with you or any of that.
I’ve never mentioned you and her together at all.So your beef with me seems to be that I don’t hate her intensely like you do. It seems like you’ve drawn battle lines and if I’m not with you I’m against you.
And that’s not a problem I can address. I can’t control if you decide to dislike me because I don’t shun someone else.
My take on the situation on her game was that she wasn’t the only one causing problems on her game. If you take that as a defense of her, you can, but its a weak ass defense of anyone. She acted badly. She wasn’t the only one. I won’t apologize for that opinion.
If you want to have beef with me over THAT, then you will. But that’s more about you than it is about me.
@bear_necessities said in MU Peeves Thread:
Was it really a “legitimate” grievance? Or was it a thinly veiled accusation that he CONTINUED TO MAKE even after the gamerunner came on the board to note that there are story purposes, etc? You say potato, I say po-ta-toe I suppose.
Yes. It was a legitimate grievance.
No, I did not continue to make it after the gamerunner responded. I was questioned, by you, as to why I would think that racist connotations would be a possibility and I explained my thought process as to why I was wary of the policy. I also acknowledged that the game policy was explained in my very next post right away and thanked the gamerunner for speaking up.
@Wizz said in MU Peeves Thread:
I’m gonna gently suggest that it’s more like this forum has a lot of trauma survivors and gets the occasional screwball like Warma who knows how to come in and start pushing everyone’s buttons.
He’s just like, an even shittier Ghost, imo, because he seems self-aware about it to some larger ambiguous degree and it comes off as intentional.
You can make the points he’s made occasionally as legitimate points. But it just seems like that’s not his actual goal in joining the conversation most of the time.
Also anyone who would be in inuki/wizard/spookitypook/whatever’s corner is a fuckin’ weirdo, just saying. That was some weird, wild shit and I can absolutely see why someone would find it at least a little traumatizing?
Well, that sucks. All of this sucks, really. I thought it was a one off, but I guess not. I’ve never really thought guilt-by-association was a thing, but I guess it really is.
So someone pushes this narrative that I defended @inuki (I didn’t, I just expanded the target), that morphs into me being in her corner, and the next thing I know I’m worst than Ghost? Yikes. People get offended when this place is called an echo chamber, but it really isn’t safe to have your own opinion here. You have to drink the kool aid or get roasted.
And I get that it isn’t everyone. And some very kind people have spoken up to point out some very obvious legitimate flaws with the things being thrown at me and the way they’ve been thrown. And thanks for that. Really, thank you. But man, things like this really make it obvious why so many people have peaced out from the community.
Believe it or not, I don’t come here to push buttons or rile anyone up. I wasn’t aware that there were so many people who had such negative feelings about me. I didn’t think most people gave a crap about me one way or another here. I’ve tried my best to not attack anyone (except for one person) and I think I’ve done pretty well at that. Obviously, some of the things I’ve said have made people feel some type of way that was never my intention. I may have failed at not offending anyone, but I definitely haven’t been outwardly hostile.
TL;DR: I thought I was adding to the community. It doesn’t really seem to be the case. The vocal opinion seems to be that I’m a troublemaker. So feel free to consider my voice and opinion squashed. My bad. That wasn’t what I was trying be about.
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@Roz said in MU Peeves Thread:
Just gonna say it: Warma might be a pain in the butt, but if almost anyone else had been the first to bring up that particular Concordia issue – like if helvetica had said it first rather than being the first to agree – it would not have gotten a response of “no one would ever care about this.”
not for nothing but this ^^ at least a little bit
