@shit-piss-love said in But Why:

@STD My experience was more that if you are playing a character whose goals run at odds with the norm, and you’re trying to do it in a way that respects the consent of others, your situation is that you will succeed at nothing unless those others consent to lose.

My take is that in a setting/theme where there’s a clear-ish line between villains and heroes, choosing to take a villain role means you consent to lose. The aggrievating bit for me hasn’t been losing but having ex machina stuff keep my long-simmering thoughtful villainous schemes to a low challenge-rating so heroes could thoughtlessly foil them between tea-parties. And that’s actually something I feel like a villain’s player consents to, just not every time.

More relevant to the thread is the disturbing experience of playing a nuanced villain and finding the heroes are all just as horrible, but the narrative never acknowledges it.

@mietze said in But Why:

My experience with most “I’m the Villian” people (but certainly not all) was that they tended to be ready to accuse people oocly of being not as great/hardcore a RPer at them, not wanting good stories, ect when rolls or RP didn’t go their way. Just like a lot of people who aren’t villains, but there was a lot more just…personal attacks.

I associate that with the themes where everybody’s morally ambiguous at best, and players who don’t identify their PC as a villain, but want to play a ‘dark hero’ and are all cheesed off that people aren’t playing along with a fantasy of being both intimidating and admired.

@Tez Yeah I’ll poke it!

Six seasons and a movie.

@Griatch Cool, thanks for the explanation. Yeah, I haven’t really come across any need for that in the kinds of games Ares is geared towards (more freeform, less immersive), but I can see where that could come in handy in other game types. Even in Ares, you could do it with some custom code in the desc plugin to dynamically adjust descs based on dynamic criteria, it’s just not built in.

@Istus said in Seeking Wyrdhold Family:

@Cobalt I’ve never played a game as a member of a family. How do you reconcile things like time zones/play times?

Well, I’d need to know your timezone first to figure out how we’d reconcile it. I’m a chronic insomniac so if you’re not US timezone there’s a good chance we’d be able to RP either early morning my time or late night my time.

But as @mietze and @sao mentioned we’d want to have open OOC communication. Which is super easy because pages don’t go away on an ares game (well I mean eventually probably, but a backlog is kept for a while), and we’d want to talk about the thoughts and cultures we have in mind for the family.

@Anhedonia Very glad to hear that you are okay! Burnout is super real and can hit any time for any reason. I really enjoyed the stories I got to tell there and plot I got to help move along. If you ever decide to reopen it or even you start a different project I am absolutely in.

@Starr-Saphyre said in Newbie friendly games for someone who’s never played MUs?:

@L-B-Heuschkel I sent a friend your way a couple months back who was new to Mushing, but their concern was that they couldn’t figure out how to engage. No one talked to them, and as a newbie, they couldn’t figure how to get involved with the story. This is probably on them as much or more than anything, but I know it specifically related to Keys and someone being new to the hobby.

(To clarify, this is not me trying to slam Keys or LB, both of whom/which I think are awesome. Just thought it might be relevant. I think a lot of us forget what it’s like to be that true newb and flailing around trying to figure out how to mine for fish.)

I don’t feel slammed, no worries. Getting to the new folks – particularly the shy ones – is a challenge all games face, all the time. We try our best to be accessible and have readable and sane helpfiles, but there are always some that are going to fall through.

I am of course happy to take any feedback that might help catch the next one that might otherwise fall through!

@Faraday Thank you for the clarity! I knew of one instance, but I did suspect that it wasn’t something regularly occurring.

@Faraday said in Requring Character Connections at Chargen:

So there was this one TV show where the main characters had each been (independently) kidnapped and then wake up in a strange town with no idea why.

I absolutely loved that show. So bummed that it was only one season…

@Pavel said in Requring Character Connections at Chargen:

My main thought process with any rule or policy like this is “why?”

If I can get a good reason why, even though the rule is off-putting to me, I can take some satisfaction in knowing it was actually considered rather than just some arbitrary thing that was decided.

The idea was supposed to be that new players would have people they could go to for RP rather than start out not having any connections and wandering around unable to get hooked into RP and plots. If they already knew each other, they would have at least someone and something to talk about to get the RP ball rolling.

It didn’t work that way in practice, but that was the theory. They explained it often since a lot of people had the same questions you guys have.

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@Cobalt I will have to check hers out. The focus of so many that I have read being abuse is kinda putting me off the omegaverse stuff. I like that gender, typically, is not a big factor.

I just wanted to drop another note here thanking everyone for their insights on this and @STD for starting the discussion. I am a ‘worst case scenario’ kind of person and wasn’t really expecting anyone (or very few people) to join ND but we have 17 registered bits (including myself and 1 alt) and people are really running with the idea and creating things to make it their own.

And I really don’t think that would be happening if I still had the Handle policy in place. So thank you 😊

@Faraday said in Really random Ares question:

custom CSS tools to hide the hearts if they also bother you

I do that on games that have them, but I can’t install custom CSS tools on my work browser, and there aren’t any for mobile devices to my knowledge.

So I still kinda gotta see them most of the time. 😛

@Aria That’s the one I was thinking of, yes.

Congrats to everyone that made this place what it is.

@Roz You’re an angel, thank you for this.

@baron8550 Message Testament for an invite to the Discord. I would invite but not sure non-staff can invite.

I forked off a few posts, old and new, related to a former and now-banned player. They can be found here: https://brandmuday.mythicus.net/topic/359/eto-drama-fork/11

@Argh said in What Is Your Preferred Play Style?:

@Faraday said in What Is Your Preferred Play Style?:

Hiding information to appease them? Not so much.

Lack of transparancy encourages them.

I think there’s a difference between “lack of transparency” and “privacy” and people conflate the two a lot.

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